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I got an integral in solving Schrodinger equation with delta function potential. It looks like

$$\int \frac{y(x)}{x} \frac{\mathrm{d}\delta(x-x_0)}{\mathrm{d}x}$$

I'm trying to solve this by splitting it into two integrals

$$\int_{-\infty}^{x_0 - \epsilon} \frac{y(x)}{x} \frac{\mathrm{d}\delta(x-x_0)}{\mathrm{d}x} + \int_{x_0 + \epsilon}^{\infty} \frac{y(x)}{x} \frac{\mathrm{d}\delta(x-x_0)}{\mathrm{d}x}$$

and then do the limit $\epsilon\to 0$. Could you tell me how to solve this integral please? I used Mathematica, it gave out a weird result.

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  • $\begingroup$ Are you trying to evaluate $\int \left(\frac{y(x)}{x}\frac{d\delta(x-x_{0})}{dx}\right)dx$ for an arbitrary $y(x)$? I don't understand your statement about the limits, either, are you evaluating two separate integrals with limits $\int_{-\infty}^{x_{0}-\epsilon}$ and $\int_{x_{0}+\epsilon}^{\infty}$? $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 26, 2012 at 23:16
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks Jerry. Yes it is. Basically it is a part of the radial part of my Schrodinger equation and y[x] is radial component and delta function is my potential function. There is a derivative of the potential function. I am trying to solve the equation for the delta function barrier about xo.Finally I can take the limit of e->0. $\endgroup$
    – nagendra
    Commented Sep 26, 2012 at 23:21
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    $\begingroup$ I wonder if perhaps this would be better off at Mathematics? (I'll migrate it if that is the case) $\endgroup$
    – David Z
    Commented Sep 26, 2012 at 23:30
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    $\begingroup$ @DavidZaslavsky: it is primarily a mathematics question, but of the type that physicists will care about more than mathematicians. I'll answer this soon. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 26, 2012 at 23:41
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    $\begingroup$ @Jerry yes, but I still think those sorts of questions should be sent to math.SE. $\endgroup$
    – David Z
    Commented Sep 27, 2012 at 3:29

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The $\delta$ function is not continuous, so it's a priori not differentiable. In fact, it's not even well-defined as an ordinary real-valued function, but can be made so in terms of distributions - linear maps on a space of test functions given by $f\mapsto\int\delta f=f(a)$.

It's possible to sensibly define derivatives of distributions by looking at representations as limits of functions:

If $\delta_i$ is a family of functions so that $\lim_{i\rightarrow\infty}\int\delta_i(x) f(x)\mathrm dx=f(a)$ for any test function $f$, then it can be considered a representation of the Dirac delta. Now, if we take the family of derivatives $\frac{\mathrm d}{\mathrm dx}\delta_i$ we arrive at $$ \int\left[\frac{\mathrm d}{\mathrm dx}\delta_i(x)\right]f(x)\mathrm dx=-\int\delta_i(x)\left[\frac{\mathrm d}{\mathrm dx}f(x)\right]\mathrm dx $$ through integration by parts and using the fact that $f$ has by definition compact support (which makes the boundary term vanish).

As the derivative is linear as well, this defines another linear map $f\mapsto-\int\delta f'$ on the space of test functions, which we call the derivative of our distribution.

Symbolically, $$ \left[\frac{\mathrm d}{\mathrm dx}\delta(x-a)\right]f(x)=-\delta(x-a)f'(x) $$ which you can just plug in into your formula above without any need for actual computation as it holds true by definition.

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  • $\begingroup$ Dear Christoph. Just to clarify that the derivatives is only for the DiracDelta function. What about in that case? $\endgroup$
    – nagendra
    Commented Sep 27, 2012 at 13:03
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    $\begingroup$ @Nagendra: added some parens to clarify - I believe this is the case you're interested in $\endgroup$
    – Christoph
    Commented Sep 27, 2012 at 13:48
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The Dirac delta function is often defined as the following distribution:

$$\int_a^b \delta(x - x_0) F(x)\mathrm{d}x = \begin{cases}F(x_0), & a < x_0 < b \\ 0, & \text{otherwise}\end{cases}$$

where $F$ is a suitable test function. Its derivative is then defined as

$$\int_a^b \delta'(x - x_0) F(x)\mathrm{d}x = -\int_a^b \delta(x - x_0) F'(x)\mathrm{d}x$$

which is also the result one would get from naively applying integration by parts. You can use this result directly to calculate your integral by setting $F(x) = \frac{y(x)}{x}$ - no need to split the integral or take any limits.

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  • $\begingroup$ What about the boundary term? $\endgroup$
    – dennis
    Commented Mar 30 at 11:32
  • $\begingroup$ The boundary term is $\delta(x - x_0) F(x)$, which is zero at $a$ and $b$ as long as $x_0$ is not equal to those values. If it is, then maybe some kind of more complicated procedure (like a limiting definition of the delta function) could be used to get the answer, but we don't worry about that sort of thing in physics :-) (this kind of thing is why I said "naively") $\endgroup$
    – David Z
    Commented Mar 30 at 22:09
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So, the properties of the derivative of the delta function can be shown relatively quickly though the following ansatz: Consider a function $\delta(x)$ such that $\delta(x) = \frac{1}{a^{2}}(x+a)$ if $-a<x<0$ and $\delta(x) = \frac{1}{a^{2}}(a-x)$ if $0<x<a$, and $\delta(x) = 0$ elsewhere. It is easy to see that $\delta(x)$ has area 1 irrespective of the value of $a$, so we can consider $\delta(x)$ to be the dirac delta function in the limit $a\rightarrow0$.

Now, consider the derivative of our putative delta function. It will be $\frac{1}{a^{2}}$ for $-a<x<0$ and $-\frac{1}{a^{2}}$ for $0<x<a$. Let's integrate a function $f(x)$ against $\delta^{\prime}(x)$:

$\begin{align} \int \delta^{\prime}(x)f(x)dx &= \int_{-a}^{0}\frac{f(x)}{a^{2}}dx - \int_{0}^{a}\frac{f(x)}{a^{2}}dx\\ &=\int_{0}^{a}\frac{f(-x)}{a^{2}}dx-\int_{0}^{a}\frac{f(x)}{a^{2}}dx\\ \end{align}$

Extracting the $a^{2}$ out of the integral, and taking the limit $a\rightarrow0$, we find, after applying L'Hopital's rule once, and then using the definition of the derivative:

$\int \delta^{\prime}(x)f(x) = -f'(0)$

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  • $\begingroup$ Thanks Jerry. Hope it would work for the limiting point xo. Let me check it with my problem. $\endgroup$
    – nagendra
    Commented Sep 27, 2012 at 2:04
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As noted above, if $x_0$ a regular point of the integrand one calculates the value of the desired integral simply by substituting this point in the derivative with appropriate choice of sign. The interesting part is when the singularities of the integrand and the delta derivative coincide, i.e., where $x_0=0$. In order to compute the integral in this case we use the fact that $$\delta_0'=\lim_{\epsilon \to 0^+}\frac{\delta_\epsilon-\delta_{-\epsilon}}{2 \epsilon},$$ the limit being in the distributional sense. A back-of-an-envelope calculation suggests that this is only defined if $y(0)=0$ and that the integral is then $\dfrac{y''(0)}2$. (Note that since the integrand is not a smooth function, the integral is not a priori defined).

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