# Can ferromagnetism be described by classical physics?

It may sound as a trivial question, but I am very confused about the origin of ferromagnetism. According to Bohr–van Leeuwen theorem, ferromagnetism cannot be predicted by classical physics. Therefore quantum physics is required. Actually, people say that the quantum mechanical phenomenon known as exchange interaction is responsible for ferromagnetism (note that, according to Wikipedia, exchange interaction has no classical analogue).

However, as far as I understand, the Ising model of ferromagnetism is usually solved in the classical limit, and Onsager's solution to the 2D case predicts the formation of ferromagnetism through a phase transition. Therefore it seems that a classical model can predict spontaneous magnetization, which contradicts the Bohr–van Leeuwen theorem.

Interestingly, according to this post, there shouldn't be any difference between the classical and quantum Onsager solution (since Onsager considered the case $h = 0$, i.e a model without external magnetic field).

Could you explain how all these results can be reconciled? Can ferromagnetism occur in classical-physics models?

• How would one get spin-spin interaction using classical physics? Oct 30, 2017 at 15:46
• All quantum systems have a classical limit. That doesn't mean their behaviour isn't fundamentally due to quantum mechanics. Oct 30, 2017 at 15:51
• Sure, but I am trying to understand if, after you take the classical limit, the model can still show ferromagnetism. If this is the case, it would mean that ferromagnetism is not a quantum phenomenon. Oct 30, 2017 at 15:55
• I must be missing something: Bohr-van Leeuwen theorem assumes the magnetic moment comes from electric currents. This is essential to the demonstration since the moment linear dependence on velocities and therefore on momentum is what makes the mean moment to be zero. In Ising model, we consider spins on a lattice: the hypothesis of Bohr-van Leeuwen is not fulfilled. Am I missing something in your question?
– user154997
Oct 30, 2017 at 16:24
• @user2983638 But ferromagnetism does come from the spins of the electrons, not the electric currents. Oct 30, 2017 at 16:38

It depends on what you mean by "a classical model predicting ferromagnetism".

You can't have a fundamental classical model of ferromagnetism for the very simple reason that ferromagnetism describes the large-scale alignment of the electron's spin magnetic dipole moments, and classical point particles can't have magnetic dipole moments. (Recall that an electron's spin is given by $\vec{S} = \frac{1}{2} \hbar \vec{\sigma}$ where $\vec{\sigma}$ is the vector of Pauli matricies, so in the classical limit $\hbar \to 0$, $\vec{S} \to \vec{0}$.) So there are simply no spins to describe. This is the type of "classical model" forbidden by the Bohr-van Leeuwen theorem.

But you could instead take a semiclassical model where the spins are quantized to take on values $\pm \frac{1}{2} \hbar$ along some particular axis, as in quantum mechanics, but we simply forbid quantum superpositions. That is, every spin is either up or down. This gives the "classical Ising model," which treats the spins' requirement to be either up or down (as well as the nature of their interactions) as fundamental, unexplained primitives. The model itself is therefore completely classical because it doesn't mention quantum mechanics, even though quantum mechanics is the underlying real-world reason that the actual physical spins being modeled take on only two values. The exact same mathematical model could be applied to systems other than electron spins, which really are fully classical.

Another model you could use to describe the spins is to take the actual real-world value of the spin magnetic moment $\vec{m} = \gamma \vec{S}$ (where $\gamma$ as the gyromagnetic ratio) and simply declare the spins to be classical $O(3)$ vectors whose length is fixed to be $\vec{m}$, ignoring all quantization effects entirely. (This is equivalent to taking $\gamma \to 0$ while taking the spin $S \to \infty$ in such a way that their product $m$ remains constant.) This isotropic model - the classical Heisenberg model - is actually more accurate for most real spin systems, because there is often no favored "$z$-axis" along which the spins are always measured. Within the framework of this model, classical statistical mechanics is certainly capable of explaining ferromagnetism (at least in three and higher dimensions), but the model itself does not explain why the electrons have spins in the first place, or why neighboring spins interact.

• Yes you are right. It is basically the same answer I posted, but I accept yours. Thanks! Oct 30, 2017 at 17:02
• I think it is also important to mention that the classical dipole-dipole interaction between two atomic dipoles is too weak at room temperature to give rise to ferromagnetic or antiferromagnetic ordering. The classical Ising model or Heisenberg model merely states the existence of a Hamiltonian which couples the spins. But the origin of this coupling and the coupling strength 'J' has a quantum origin. @tparker
– SRS
Apr 16, 2019 at 6:01

I have found the following interesting answer to the question, from "Introduction to the Theory of Ferromagnetism, Amikam Aharoni". 