# How to determine directions of Vectors relative to each other?

Yesterday I saw this question in my text book and I wonder what is the answer for this:

Two ships X & Y going in different direction with equal speed. Motion of X is due north but to an observer on Y, the apparent direction of motion of X is north-east. What will be the actual direction of motion of Y as observer from the shore?

Correct answer is 'West' in most of key books but there are no authentic proves or explanation.

• draw two diagrams, one in the rest frame, one in Y's frame. Sep 27, 2017 at 17:23
• Emphasizing @JMLCarter a picture is essential to a good solution in every motion problem, and in almost every physics problem. Drawing a picture helps organize your thoughts, and is worth a 1000 equations. :) Sep 27, 2017 at 17:26
• Well, if there is a stationary ship and you're traveling east, then to you the ship will look like it's moving at the same speed but going west, right? You can generalize that situation and with a little thought come up with the equation v-w=z, where v is the vector representing the ship's speed (with respect to the water), w is the vector of your speed (with respect to the water), and z is the apparent velocity of the ship with respect to you.
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Sep 27, 2017 at 17:27
• @BillN You're absolutely right! And I like your point of view. Sep 30, 2017 at 6:18

The key thing to consider is "to an observer on Y". This means that you are setting Y as a frame or reference - or that you are considering Y to have $0$ velocity and that everything else is moving accordingly. If from the shore X is going North then you have to consider how Y is moving for X to be travelling NE from the point of view of an observer on Y. For X to seem to be travelling NE instead of North, Y has to be travelling in the opposite direction of East, which is West.
Imagine you're looking north high above a stationary boat on the mast, and you see a boat moving straight ahead north relative to your compass. You know the motion of that boat as it's given to you. Imagine now that you see it moving north-east, well you know the boat is only moving north as the question gives it to you, but it now appears to be moving east as well. If your boat and that boat were both moving with unknown velocities, you couldn't really say [if the surroundings didnt give it away] what boat was moving in which direction. Since the boat appears to have some motion in the west $\to$ east axis, that would also be seen if your boat was moving the opposite direction in the same axis, which there aren't any restricting conditions for. So then it's reasonable to conclude that that's the way it is.