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I know it's a common question but I can't find an explanation that can clearly show how it happens. If we take Bernoulli's equation, being aware of its hypothosis, it states that energy is constant between 2 given points. So if pressure drops, velocity should rise.

I know flow mass should be conserved but one thing is the mathematical explanation and also the mechanism itself. How exactly does this happen? If velocity increases should that be due to a Force. Not gravitational not surface force so, which one?

Furthermore, If liquids can't be compressed and the temperature is constant. Where is this "pressure" energy stored?

EDIT: My question stems from working with hydraulic pumps in which diffusers are used to transform velocity into pressure.

It must have something to do with the geometry of the pipe but I can't understand how a liquid flowing with velocity drops some of it to increase its pressure in a wider segment of the pipe. More space should led to less pressure and more velocity as it has more space available.

I am looking for a more "atomistic" answer such as this one (it doesn't satisfy me completely):

https://www.quora.com/According-to-Bernoullis-principle-the-pressure-of-a-fluid-decreases-when-its-velocity-increases-for-e-g-in-a-nozzle-What-is-the-physical-reasoning-for-this

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    $\begingroup$ A old river sailor told me when I was a kid "Where the river is narrow it's fast and slow where it's wide" Why? I asked. "Because the (amount of) water flowing in the wide is the same in the narrow" $\endgroup$ – jean Jan 18 '17 at 15:22
  • $\begingroup$ Either I have this question.... Thanks for asking the relevant @ Xcode X $\endgroup$ – Osal Selaka Dec 28 '17 at 16:45
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Q: What is the mechanism that transforms pressure into velocity?

A: Pushing.

Seriously, that's the answer. Bernoulli's equation is usually stated as “pressure drops when velocity increases”, but I find it much clearer when stated the other way around: velocity increases in a narrow part of a pipe because before the narrow part, there's a big pressure pushing the liquid into the narrow part. Inside the narrow part, the fluid is already accelerated, so that pressure isn't needed anymore to keep up the speed.

(In fact more accurately it's the pressure gradient that accelerates the fluid, i.e. the particles at the entry are strongly being pushed from behind but not so strongly resisted from ahead.)

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    $\begingroup$ The point is that I dont see how and why liquids molecules would change pressure into velocity. I thought about the pushing before but in difussers its the opposite,velocity drops and pressure increases and the pushing doesnt work any more.What is slowing the fluid down? $\endgroup$ – XcodeX Jan 17 '17 at 18:59
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    $\begingroup$ Pressure is slowing the fluid down! Namely, the inverse pressure gradient at that point: the molecules come out of the narrow part and run into a “wall” of higher pressure, while behind in the narrow there's only lower pressure, so they experience a net breaking effect. $\endgroup$ – leftaroundabout Jan 17 '17 at 20:48
  • $\begingroup$ @XcodeX: Distance. It works almost exactly the same way as with ropes and pulleys. Assuming the liquid is not compressible is the same as assuming ropes are not stretchable. If the liquid cannot be compressed, then the flow must be the same throughout the system. If the flow (litres per second) is equal everywhere then if the pipe is narrower the liquid MUST move faster so that the litres per second flow is maintained (if not then the liquid would compress). Similarly, if the pipe is wider then the liquid MUST slow down to keep litres per second constant. $\endgroup$ – slebetman Jan 18 '17 at 4:34
  • $\begingroup$ @XcodeX It's the same reason why things bounce off of a wall when thrown at it. The pressure is stored as physical stress between molecules and transforms into velocity as the reaction force between the molecules from the stress they apply to each other suddenly reduces on one side, then obviously the force from the other side continues to push and will cause acceleration in the direction of reduced pressure. $\endgroup$ – Shiri Jan 18 '17 at 15:22
  • $\begingroup$ @slebetman But one thing is to know the liquid has to accelerate/ decelerate to maintain the flow mass and other quite different the mechanism that does it. I know and respect the conservation of energy and mass but can see how the individual atoms are doing what they are doing. $\endgroup$ – XcodeX Jan 22 '17 at 14:06
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Normally (excluding nuclear reactions etc.), it is the electromagnetic repulsion at the root of all. A push is nothing but electromagnetic repulsion between what is pushing and what is being pushed.

If what is being pushed is firm enough to exert equal and opposite em force, then there is no motion, even though there is pressure from both sides. Otherwise, it gets displaced by the repulsion which becomes velocity. Pressure is nothing but em repulsion per unit area.

Attraction can also cause pressure, but repulsion is a must to realize the pressure. Just like gravity (attraction), causes pressure between your feet and earth, but the pressure is only realized by the repulsion between electrons in your shoes and those in earth where you are standing.

Faster (in parallel) moving fluid/air has lesser chance of exerting that repulsion and hence bernouilli principle.

So, to answer your question, EM causes push/pressure, which causes displacement, which results into velocity.

In one of your comment - "velocity drops and pressure increases" - basically, the opposing force is firm enough to slow down the displacement and so let the pressure increase till the point it matches the source push.

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  • $\begingroup$ Really, this is a great explain!!!!!! A different way of thinking!!! $\endgroup$ – Osal Selaka Dec 28 '17 at 14:37
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Bernouillis equation balances the energy, not the forces themselves.

Pressure is like a potential energy. It has no use until there is a pressure differential to act on. When the pressure is allowed to act.on a differential, fluid flows from high to low pressure. This does create a force on the fluid, causing it to speed up.

Since we already know pressure and want velocity, finding the force on the fluid itself is a wasted step. Instead, you can use the energy balance to relate a change in pressure directly to a change in velocity. It's a simple matter of assuming no net energy loss and that only pressure and velocity will change.

The pressure energy is stored in whatever container can hold the pressure. If there's an open end, the fluid will go through the open end and lose that pressure. That lost pressure will become velocity through conservation of energy. Pressure itself isn't usable energy, you need a pressure difference to get use out (same thing applies with voltage potential and it also happens with temperatures ).

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  • $\begingroup$ I meant how is it stored within the fluid. No work is done to the fluid so it should be stored somehow in it. electrostatic repulsion between molecules of the fluid maybe? $\endgroup$ – XcodeX Jan 17 '17 at 18:54
  • $\begingroup$ In gases, presure is the measureof the collitions between gas and container, increasing velocity with temperature leads to "bigger" collitions so more pressure. But what about liquids? $\endgroup$ – XcodeX Jan 17 '17 at 18:56
  • $\begingroup$ It's stored as internal energy in the fluid. Liquid or gas the pressure is doing the same thing. More collisions, more pressure, liquid or gas. In either case, it is stored as potential energy in the fluid. The walls of the container are keeping the energy internal to the fluid. If you open the container, the internal energy of the pressure is released by forcing the fluid out of the opening. $\endgroup$ – JMac Jan 17 '17 at 19:00
  • $\begingroup$ Cant be that because increasing temperature in liquids do not increase presure as it happends in gases. $\endgroup$ – XcodeX Jan 17 '17 at 19:23
  • $\begingroup$ Who told you that? If you increase the temperature of a liquid in a closed container, you will increase the pressure. It is the same principle as gas. As long as you're in a closed container, pressure will increase. $\endgroup$ – JMac Jan 17 '17 at 19:26
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Lets start with where the pressure energy is stored.

No liquid is really incompressible, only nearly so. The particles have a very strict idea about how far apart they "want" to be, but they can be convinced to crowd slightly closer together.

And that is what high pressure is, particles crowded uncomfortably close together. You can visualize this as every particle pushing on its neighbours but nobody moving much because this push comes from all directions. Particles also push on the container, but the container pushes right back.

This is potential energy. You can visualize it as a small compressed spring between every pair of too close neighbours.

And then suddenly there is an opening where particles can escape! The first layer of particles is pushed only from one side and is ejected at high speed, then the second layer becomes the new outermost layer and is ejected in turn. And so on.

Now the energy in those compressed springs have been turned into kinetic energy.

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  • $\begingroup$ I tried picturing the spring particles but it actually works the other way! When the pipe is wider the pressure increases and viceversa.link. If they were like springs on the wider part they should have more room so less pressure as they can relax their pressure. $\endgroup$ – XcodeX Jan 22 '17 at 13:52

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