# Can we model gravitation as a repulsive force? [closed]

This question is actually related to my earlier question ("what is motion"). The fact that objects move a lot in the universe and that the universe is expanding, can imply that gravity is a repulsive force that increases with distance.. so the farthest objects repel us more.

This can still explain several existing observations, e.g., why does the apple fall?

Motion is the result of such repulsion. Two objects unlucky enough not to be moving relative to each other get squished due to the repulsion of the rest of the universe around them. The earth repels the apple less than the stars so it is pushed towards the earth.

Furthermore, it can explain the expanding universe without the need for dark energy.

This could be demonstrated in a thought experiment. If we take a lot of same-charge particles (with small mass) such as electrons and lock them in a large box at a low enough temperature. The mutual repulsion of the particles may cause similar motion as if due to gravitational attraction.

Another experiment would be to measure the slight changes in our weight during day and night when the sun and earth align (if their masses are large enough to detect the feeble change in repulsion).

[EDIT: the question in the original form may not have been clear. It is "can we model".. with a yes/no answer and why (not). If downvoting, please justify.

## closed as not a real question by akhmeteli, user10851, user1504, Waffle's Crazy Peanut, twistor59Jun 22 '13 at 6:33

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• If the stars push the apple to the Earth, wouldn't the stars on the other side of the Earth push it back up with an equal force? Or maybe you're a flat-Earthist? – Pete Jackson Aug 5 '11 at 21:52
• Related: physics.stackexchange.com/q/11542/2451 and links therein. – Qmechanic Jan 19 '16 at 9:08
• I think the question, though poorly worded, is "What if gravity becomes repulsive at large distances"? Strong force between nucleons is repulsive or attractive, it looks like as a function of distance. There's no reason to think gravity isn't the same way at some cosmic scale, so I think this is a fair question and shows that OP is questioning - a good characteristic for someone studying science. (Albeit there's no observation of it, either.) I know this is an old question, but I came across it years later, maybe others will, too. – Words Like Jared Apr 20 '16 at 2:06

Show me a distribution of remote mass that would provide the behavior we see for both

• Jupiter in orbit around the sun
• the many moons in orbit around Jupiter

which both appear to be $1/r^2$ forces.

Now try to generalize to support all the moons and planets in the solar system. You can't do it because the system is highly over-constrained.

Interestingly, this theory has been proposed earlier (Le Sage theory). According to wikipedia, mainstream scientists discount this theory for lack of experimental evidence. So this answers the question.

There is definitely a strong history of "repulsive" gravity... often called "pushing gravity". You can read about it in the book: Pushing Gravity.

For a recent proponent of the concept, the late Tom Van Flandern collected lots of pieces of the theory and made a number of predictions based on the ideas.