Further to this question I asked recently, lgritz makes a very astute observation about the massive fuel requirements to travel 36 lt yrs with known fuel technology today. So, if conventional rocket fuel is completely impractical, then what are the alternatives for interstellar travel?

And how big would the spacecraft need to be, assuming that we could make a structurally sound spacecraft of the required size and then what would be the estimated fuel requirements to travel 36 lt yrs taking into account acceleration and deceleration?

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    $\begingroup$ I haven't done the calculation, but my guess is that the most efficient realistic propulsion mechanism is going to be detonating nuclear weapons a la Project Orion. I guess annihilating matter and antimatter is even more efficient, but we don't have a reasonable design for such a propulsion device. We don't even have a system for creating, transporting, and carrying the fuel. $\endgroup$ – Warrick Sep 20 '11 at 7:58
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    $\begingroup$ A conventional rocket burns its fuel in a matter of seconds or minutes. You would need years of acceleration to travel 36 l-yrs, and rockets become MUCH less efficient the greater the fuel to payload ratio (because the early burn has to accelerate the payload and the fuel for late burning). I'm not going to do the calculation, but I would guess it would be something like an entire Earth mass in fuel for an apartment-sized payload. Conventional rockets will ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NOT do interstellar travel. Solar sails or Project Orion are the way to go, as the laws of physics are known today. $\endgroup$ – Andrew Sep 20 '11 at 11:24
  • $\begingroup$ I have modified my question in an attempt to be more practical. (And disguise my ignorance of propulsion systems). It's all good feedback though, as I am trying to craft an engaging question. $\endgroup$ – giulio Sep 21 '11 at 5:48
  • $\begingroup$ The Warp Drive... $\endgroup$ – Schrödinger's Cat Jul 17 '12 at 2:42
  • $\begingroup$ We can actually get to, say, Alpha Centauri in a reasonable time (i.e., years, not centuries) using a solar dive (i.e., small perihelion orbit), short rocket burn, and solar sail. We would not need anything as drastic as nuclear bombs for propulsion. However, once you start going 100s to 1000s of km/s, micron-sized dust will become a dangerous issue. None of this accounts for the need to stop or slow down and enter orbit though. $\endgroup$ – honeste_vivere Feb 24 '17 at 22:44

Rather than leaving a brief comment on this topic, let me just point at this wikipedia page which is very comprehensive:


My own comments:

Once we learn to control fusion, that would be an attractive candidate for the engine. The nice thing is that there might be no need to convert the reactor's energy into something else (like electricity), then feed it to the engine. The reactor itself might be the engine. It would achieve fairly decent ejection speeds too.

In a more distant future, black hole engines look interesting. When talking about total mass conversion (into energy), most people think about antimatter; but a tiny black hole also converts all its mass into radiation, via the Hawking effect. If we learn to generate small black holes on an industrial scale, and if quantum gravity doesn't play some unexpected trick on us, those would make awesome engines - just feed them any random space junk and they keep going.

The only thing about micro black holes is that if you stop feeding them, they keep shrinking, and radiate even more furiously, and so shrink even further, and so on, until they detonate. Either keep feeding it, or eject it far far away.

  • $\begingroup$ Fusion is already controlled in the Teller-Ulam device, and Orion can do interstellar travel. $\endgroup$ – Ron Maimon Jun 24 '12 at 7:25
  • $\begingroup$ The existing ban on high altitude/inner/outer space testing effectively stops cold the known existing players in the nuclear arena from verifying the capability of such a propulsion device. $\endgroup$ – Everyone Jul 12 '12 at 23:48

Aneutronic fusion propulsion will be an important breakthrough for interstellar travel, because helium-3 and boron are easier to obtain in the universe than tritium, uranium-235, and antimatter.




something a bit out of the box would be to setup artificial black holes with the rotating axis aligned in the direction of desired travel, recreate artificially a relativistic jet emission, and it would be "as simple" as parasailing on the top of the ejected radiation. If you can survive the a-bit-warmer-than-tropical gamma radiation without melting (which is bound to soften as you accelerate anyways), you would accelerate to significant fractions of $c$ in almost no time.

The real problem would be to efficiently brake. I guess you could use a Bussard ramjet for that.


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