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I was reading and extract from "Fundamentals Laws of Mechanics", 1980, by I.E Irodov, § 1.2. 'Kinematics of a Solid' and came across this insane text where the author asks me to imagine a 'solid performing two elementary rotations'.

Moreover, the vector introduced ($d\boldsymbol{\phi}$) can be shown to satisfy the basic property of vectors, that is, vector addition. Indeed, imagine a solid performing two elementary rotations, $d\boldsymbol{\phi}_1$ and $d\boldsymbol{\phi}_2$, about different axes crossing at a stationary point O. The resultant displacement $d\mathbf{r}$ of an arbitrary point A of the body, whose radius vector with respect to the point O is equal to $\mathbf{r}$, can be represented as follows: $$d\mathbf{r} = d\mathbf{r}_1 + d\mathbf{r}_2 = [d\boldsymbol{\phi}_1, \mathbf{r}] + [d\boldsymbol{\phi}_2, \mathbf{r}] = [d\boldsymbol{\phi}, \mathbf{r}]$$ $where$ $$d\boldsymbol{\phi}= d\boldsymbol{\phi}_1 + d\boldsymbol{\phi}_2 \tag{1.12} $$ i.e: the two given rotations, $d\boldsymbol{\phi}_1$ and $d\boldsymbol{\phi}_2$, are equivalent to one rotation through the angle $d\boldsymbol{\phi}= d\boldsymbol{\phi}_1 + d\boldsymbol{\phi}_2$ about the exis coinciding with the vector $d\boldsymbol{\phi}$ and passing through the point O.

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I need help trying to imagine/visualize two 'infinitesimal rotations'. I have managed to prove that finite rotations do not obey the law of vector addition by doing two finite rotations on an imaginary object but I am unable to do the same with infinitesimal rotations and verify that infinitesimal rotations, indeed, obey the law of vector addition.

Please explain what the author is trying to convey. I do understand that infinitesimal rotations are vectors but I find it really hard to comprehend the passage given above.

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  • $\begingroup$ Hi Yashas. Can you clarify what you are asking? Your question seems to be about how to visualise two infinitesimal rotations. $\endgroup$ – John Rennie Jun 13 '16 at 6:01
  • $\begingroup$ Yes, I always try to understand everything in the textbook. I have problems visualising infinitesimal rotations. The author says imagine which I am not able to do. I can imagine and prove that finite rotations do not obey the law of vector addition but I am not able to do the same with infinitesimal rotations and verify that they obey the law of vector addition. $\endgroup$ – Yashas Jun 13 '16 at 6:11
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    $\begingroup$ In non-standard analysis, which is the right formal system to take, the product of two infinitesimals is infinitely smaller than any of them. Thus, dϕdr=0 or dϕdθ=0 and you only keep the infinitesimals to first order $\endgroup$ – Wolphram jonny Jun 13 '16 at 7:03
  • $\begingroup$ Yes but the author says "imagine a solid performing two elementary rotations". How can someone imagine something which isn't even real? I don't what was running in the author's mind when he wrote it and I am trying so hard to understand that. $\endgroup$ – Yashas Jun 13 '16 at 7:10
  • $\begingroup$ Do you even think if there is an imaginative way to verify that infinitesimal rotations are first order tensors? $\endgroup$ – Yashas Jun 13 '16 at 7:11
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All vectors, except $\:\mathbf{r}\:$, are infinitesimals.
I wonder if the author (Irodov) makes use of this result anywhere in his textbook.


EDIT

The infinitesimal rotation of a vector $\:\mathbf{r}\:$ around the direction of a unit vector $\:\mathbf{n}=\left(n_{1},n_{2},n_{3}\right)\:$ by an infinitesimal angle $\:\mathrm{d}\theta\:$ may be represented as follows :

\begin{equation} \mathbf{r}' =\mathbf{r}+\mathrm{d} \mathbf{r} =\mathbf{r}+\mathrm{d}\theta\mathbf{n}\boldsymbol{\times}\mathbf{r}=\left(\mathrm{I}+\mathrm{d}\theta\mathbf{n}\boldsymbol{\times}\right)\mathbf{r} \tag{01} \end{equation}

The infinitesimal rotation matrix is explicitly expressed as

\begin{equation} \mathrm{I}+\mathrm{d}\theta\mathbf{n}\boldsymbol{\times}= \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 1 \end{bmatrix} +\mathrm{d}\theta \begin{bmatrix} 0 & -n_{3} & n_{2} \\ n_{3} & 0 & -n_{1} \\ -n_{2}& n_{1} & 0 \end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & -n_{3}\mathrm{d}\theta & n_{2}\mathrm{d}\theta \\ n_{3}\mathrm{d}\theta & 1 & -n_{1}\mathrm{d}\theta \\ -n_{2}\mathrm{d}\theta& n_{1}\mathrm{d}\theta & 1 \end{bmatrix} \tag{02} \end{equation}

Now, let the two infinitesimal rotations of the question :

\begin{align} \mathrm{I}+d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{1}\boldsymbol{\times} & =\mathrm{I}+d\phi_{1} \mathbf{n}_{1}\boldsymbol{\times} \tag{03a} \\ \mathrm{I}+d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{2}\boldsymbol{\times} & =\mathrm{I}+d\phi_{2} \mathbf{n}_{2}\boldsymbol{\times} \tag{03b} \end{align}

The composition of these rotations is : \begin{align} & \left(\mathrm{I}+d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{1}\boldsymbol{\times}\right)\left(\mathrm{I}+d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{2}\boldsymbol{\times}\right) \\ & =\mathrm{I}+d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{1}\boldsymbol{\times}+d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{2}\boldsymbol{\times}+d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{1}\boldsymbol{\times}(d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{2}\boldsymbol{\times}\\ &=\mathrm{I}+\underbrace{\left(d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{1}+d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{2}\right)}_{d\boldsymbol{\phi}}\boldsymbol{\times}+d\phi_{1} d\phi_{2}F\left(\mathbf{n}_{1},\mathbf{n}_{2}\right) \\ &=\mathrm{I}+d\boldsymbol{\phi}\boldsymbol{\times}+d\phi_{1} d\phi_{2}F\left(\mathbf{n}_{1},\mathbf{n}_{2}\right) \tag{04} \end{align}

where $\:F\left(\mathbf{n}_{1},\mathbf{n}_{2}\right)\:$ the following finite linear transformation \begin{equation} F\left(\mathbf{n}_{1},\mathbf{n}_{2}\right)\mathbf{r} \equiv \left(\mathbf{n}_{1}\boldsymbol{\cdot}\mathbf{r} \right)\mathbf{n}_{2}-\left(\mathbf{n}_{1}\boldsymbol{\cdot}\mathbf{n}_{2}\right)\mathbf{r} \tag{05} \end{equation}

In equation (04) we have the 2nd order term \begin{equation} d\phi_{1} d\phi_{2}F\left(\mathbf{n}_{1},\mathbf{n}_{2}\right) \ne d\phi_{2} d\phi_{1}F\left(\mathbf{n}_{2},\mathbf{n}_{1}\right) \tag{06} \end{equation}

So, to 2nd order the two infinitesimal rotations don't commute. But to 1rst order ($d\phi_{1} d\phi_{2} \approx 0$) since \begin{equation} d\boldsymbol{\phi} = d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{1}+d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{2} = d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{2}+d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{1} \tag{07} \end{equation}

the two rotations commute and we have a form of vector addition of infinitesimal rotations.

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  • $\begingroup$ "All vectors, except r, are infinitesimals." I did not understand that. Infinitesimal means something very small (infinitely small). I understand infinitesimal rotation as a very small rotation that doesn't really rotate because its too small but gives a finite rotation when integrated. $\endgroup$ – Yashas Jun 13 '16 at 13:59
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    $\begingroup$ @Yashas Samaga : Infinitesimals are the magnitudes, not the directions. So, for example, $\:d\boldsymbol{\phi}=d\phi \mathbf{n}, d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{1}=d\phi_{1} \mathbf{n}_{1}, d\boldsymbol{\phi}_{2}=d\phi_{2} \mathbf{n}_{2}\:$ where $\:d\phi ,d\phi_{1} ,d\phi_{2} \:$ are infinitesimal scalars and $\:\mathbf{n}, \mathbf{n}_{1}, \mathbf{n}_{2}\:$ unit vectors. But you don't ask what an infinitesimal vector is, you ask how to imagine equation (1.12) and this is what is included in the Figure. $\endgroup$ – Frobenius Jun 13 '16 at 16:29
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  • $\begingroup$ @ Frobenius: If you don't like the idea, then let me know. I will find out another way to ask questions.(You already helped me a lot). $\endgroup$ – N.G.Tyson Jun 13 '16 at 18:26

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