# Can we observe solar p-p fusion reaction somehow on Earth?

What are the properties of proton+proton fusion reaction

$p + p → 2H + e^+ + ν_e + 0.42 MeV$

making it hard to replicate on Earth?

If we aim beam of protons to a can of water, won't we observe some number of these p-p fusions?

Do we have p-p fusion events on some well known accelerator like LHC or old ones?

The reaction has been studied in accelerators

A bubble chamber study of proton-proton interactions at 4 GeV/c Part I—Elastic scattering, single-pion and deuteron production .Summary

Elastic scattering, single-pion and deuteron production have been investigated. The cross-section for elastic scattering is σelastic = (13.5±0.3) mb. The angular distribution has been fitted to dσ/d|t|=(dσ/d|t|)0 e −bt in the region of low values oft. The best fit givesb=(6.7±0.5) (GeV/c)−2 and (dσ/d|t|)0=(91±5) mb(GeV/c)−2. The cross-sections for ppπ0, pnπ+ reactions are respectively (2.6±0.3) mb and (9.7±0.4) mb. These reactions are dominated by the (3/2, 3/2) nucleonpion isobar production and by forward backward collimation of the nucleons. The production rates for the isobarsN∗++1238 ,N∗+1238,N∗+1500 have been estimated, taking into account the experimental peripheral behaviour of the interaction. In the pnπ+ reaction they are (50±2)%; (10±3)%; (4±3)%. In the ppπ+ reaction the production ofN∗++1238 is estimated to be (45±10)%. The dπ+ and dπ+π+π- reaction cross-sections are respectively (0.03±0.01) mb, and (0.04±0.01) mb.

It is behind a paywall:Il Nuovo Cimento A (1971-1996),Volume 49, Issue 3 , pp 479-498

Deuterons are produced and there is enough energy left over to get a few pions in parallel. You may call it fusion, since one of the protons turns into a neutron, but, as observed in the comments, with the strong interaction.

So all it needs is enough energy so that the reaction can take place.

The difference with the sun is the energy available for the interaction. When the average temperature is at the energy where the reaction has a high probability it means a high flux of these interactions will happen spontaneously. The sun models use the weak interaction because at the core temperatures which are less than 15 million Kelvin strong interactions are improbable. The chain of weak interactions is shown here.

What namely cannot be observed in the lab? Transmutation of proton to neutron or pn fusion?

In page 41 here the transmutation of a proton to a neutron is discussed, one needs electron antineutrinos. I do not know of accelerator electron-antineutrino beams.

• Shouldn't deuteron production be inelastic case? – Dims Jun 2 '16 at 14:54
• In the sun the neutron is formed by the weak interaction $p\to n +e^++\nu_e$, followed by $pn$ fusion. In the lab this cannot be observed. What the paper studies is the strong interaction $p\to n +\pi^-$ followed by $n$ capture on the proton. Of course, the $\pi^-$ does eventually decay by the weak interaction $\pi^- \to e^-+\nu_e$ (actually. mostly $\mu$), so the end products are actually the the same. – Thomas Jun 2 '16 at 16:11
• What namely cannot be observed in the lab? Transmutation of proton to neutron or pn fusion? – Dims Jun 2 '16 at 16:42

The problem is that there is a huge potential barrier for the fusion of two protons due to their electrostatic repulsion, and this makes fusion an extremely low probability process. Even in the extreme conditions in the core of the Sun proton fusion is exceedingly slow - this is discussed in Why does the Sun's (or other stars') nuclear reaction not use up all its "fuel" immediately?.

As Anna mentions, we can do the reaction in accelerators because even a small accelerator can easily punch through the potential barrier, though whether this counts as fusion is debatable. The Sun has only its thermal energy available and this is far smaller than the potential barrier.

• In accelerators you end up doing the strong interaction $p+p\to d+\pi^-$ (followed by weak pion decay). In the sun there is not enough energy to make pions, so you have to rely on the weak interaction $p+p\to d+e^++\nu_e$. This one is hard to see in the lab, because the cross section is too small. – Thomas Jun 2 '16 at 18:12

What are the properties of proton+proton fusion reaction $$p + p → 2H + e^+ + ν_e + 0.42 MeV$$ making it hard to replicate on Earth?

This reaction has been replicated many times on Earth. The problem is that the reaction requires a proton to decay into a positron and a neutron at the instant the collision occurs. This is extremely unlikely. This is why, despite being at a temperature of 15 million kelvins and at a density 150 times that of water, the energy production per unit volume at the center of the Sun is about that of a warm compost pile.

This is also why proton+proton fusion is quite worthless for use as either a destructive device (e.g., a bomb) or as a beneficial device (e.g., a fusion power generator). Reproducing the energy production of a compost pile is trivial. Fusion generators need to do much better at producing energy than does a compost pile. Moreover, we cannot reproduce the conditions inside the Sun. Reproducing the temperature is easy; the temperature equivalent of the collisions created by the Large Hadron Collider are about 100,000 times that at the center of the Sun. Compressing hydrogen at those temperatures to a density 150 times that of water is something we cannot do. And even if we could, we'd get the equivalent a warm compost pile.