# How do the Planets and Sun get their initial spin?

1. How do the Planets and Sun get their initial rotation?

2. Why do Venus and Mercury rotate so slowly compared to other planets?

3. Why does Venus rotate in a different direction to Mercury, Earth and Mars?

• Apr 1, 2012 at 7:37
• In fact, many physicist way up in the 19th century were discussing whether God was needed in order to set all the planets in motion in their orbits. Like, an initial "kick" or something to set things going. Or, if you will, to "wind up" the whole Universe (Just like we think of the Universe much in computer terms today, they thought of it much in steam engine and wind-up toy terms). Jan 22, 2014 at 18:17

To build on Martin Beckett's answer (especially because I am not sure how familiar you are with physics);

Currently we believe Stars form when objects known as Molecular Clouds (which are as one might guess, clouds of molecules in space, mostly comprised of hydrogen) collapse. It is important to note that these clouds are not 'static', they have some kind of motion, including some kind of 'average rotation', which is to say that overall the cloud is rotating (usually fairly slowly).

As was mentioned in Martin Beckett's answer, angular momentum is conserved; the typical example to give is to imagine a spinning figure skater, as she brings her arms in close to her body, she spins faster. If you don't believe this and have access to an office chair, it is easy to convince yourself (and possibly injure yourself too...). This holds true for the molecular cloud as well. As it collapses in on itself, it starts rotating faster and faster, forming a disc. The bulk of this coalesces into a big ball of hydrogen at the centre, which will eventually form a star. The matter in the disc slowly starts to clump together more and more to form the planets (it's a little more complicated than this, but if you're interested it's an easy topic to read up on). Similarly to how the overall cloud starts spinning faster and faster, the matter that forms these planets was spinning and maintains its spin as it clumps together into planets.

The previous post has covered your other questions.

• @martinb Thank you both for you reply. The related question given above, is very interesting with regards to spin, and how spin is developed. With regards to the rotation of Venus and Mercury, I thought it may well be to do with their position relative to the sun, but both planets are rotating at a far slower speed than the sun. Venus which is roughly the same size as the Earth, is rotating at 1/100th of the time it takes the Earth (and Mars) to rotate. Distance wise, proportionally, from the Sun centre, if the sun was having this effect, Apr 1, 2012 at 22:03
• I would expect both the Earth and Mars to have different rotation rates. Both Venus and Mercury are obviously not locked to the suns rotation, otherwise they would be rotating at the same speed of the Sun, as per our Moon/Earth. As they are not locked, and in view of their small size relative to the massive variations of the Sun's surface, tidal effect would have no set pattern. It is then surprising to me, they are able to keep such a steady rotation, if it is in fact, tidal effect slowing their rotation. A personal view. Happy to be shot down, as trying to get it right in my mind. Apr 1, 2012 at 22:03
• @CliveBallard - tidal friction is more complicated than just mass/distance, it's sensitive to non spherical-ness and any fluid on the surface. I'm sure the amount of tidal braking for mercury/venus-sun has been worked out but I don't know the details Apr 4, 2012 at 22:37

Anglular momentum is conserved, so any tiny initial rotation that a the original ball of gas had becomes faster as the gas collapses down into a star and disk of planets.

Planets near the sun rotate slowly for the same reason that the moon always faces the same side to the Earth - tidal braking

Venus probably received a hit from a some lump of rock / proto-planet some time early in it's life which changed it's rotation. A similar event split the moon off from Earth

• This answer is overly simple. A forming star system does not obey conservation of angular momentum. A star couldn't form if conservation of angular momentum applied. Instead, the forming star needs to continuously shed angular momentum, as does the gas cloud. Invoking conservation of angular momentum on a system that does not conserve angular momentum is a non sequitur. Oct 29, 2015 at 8:19

How do the Planets and Sun get their initial rotation?

A simple answer is conservation of angular momentum. The correct answer is that simple answer is a bit too simple.

The Sun
Stars form from a gas cloud undergoing gravitational collapse. The cloud collapses into a protoplanetary disk as the protostar begins to grow. Conservation of angular momentum dictates that the protostar and disk maintain a constant angular momentum: The disk and star rotate about a common axis. This is what we see now in our solar system: A slowly rotating star whose rotation axis is more or less the same as the orbital axis of the planets' orbits.

There's a problem with this nice simple explanation: While the Sun accounts for 99.87% of the solar system's total mass, the Sun accounts for very little of the solar system's total angular momentum. This "angular momentum problem" (e.g., see Richard Larson, "Angular momentum and the formation of stars and black holes," Reports on Progress in Physics 73.1 (2010): 014901) is even larger during the formation process. The total angular momentum of a typical gas cloud is multiple orders of magnitude larger than is the largest possible angular momentum that a star could sustain, lest it break up. A protostar needs to shed angular momentum as it grows. It doesn't quite make sense to invoke conservation of angular momentum on a system that does not conserve angular momentum. Various proposed processes for this shedding do however more or less keep the axis of rotation pointing in more or less the same direction.

The terrestrial planets
Terrestrial planets are assumed to form from a series of collisions, starting with little clumps of dust that eventually grow to be boulders, then to protoplanets, then to planetary embryos, and finally to planets. In those last few collisions amongst pairs of large planetary embryos, the angular momentum due to relative velocity of those last few binary collisions most likely overwhelms the angular momentum due to rotation. The initial rotation of the terrestrial planets is a result of the last big collision. The result is somewhat random.

Mercury
Mercury is a special case. It is essentially tidally locked to the Sun. (More precisely, it's in a 3:2 spin-orbit resonance.) The very strong gravity gradient torque exerted on Mercury by the Sun would have overwhelmed any reasonable initial rotation. Whatever initial rotational angular velocity Mercury had, it is long gone. There's no telling what Mercury's initial rotation rate or rotational axis were.

Venus
Venus is another special case. It rotates very slowly, and it's rotation is retrograde. Venus' rotation axis is nearly upside down (177° obliquity). For a long time, most solar scientists thought this was a consequence of the last big thing to hit Venus (see above). There are two problems with a giant collision to explain Venus' rotation. One is that a collision that makes Venus rotate almost exactly opposite it's orbital axis is rather unlikely. An even bigger problem is that Venus has a very thick atmosphere. A last big whack large enough to make Venus flip on its side most likely would have expelled Venus' atmosphere. A nice solution is that Venus' upside-down rotation is a natural consequence of Venus' very thick atmosphere. Per Alexandre Correia and Jacques Laskar, "The four final rotation states of Venus," Nature 411.6839 (2001): 767-770, Venus is close to being in one of (and one of the most likely) four possible final rotational states. No last big whack is needed to explain Venus' rotation. Whatever initial rotation it had, it is long gone.

Earth
The Earth has an extremely large moon. This makes the Earth yet another special case. The dominant hypothesis regarding the formation of the Moon is that it is a consequence of an oblique giant impact between the proto-Earth and a Mars-sized planetary embryo that happened late in the formation of the solar system. The rotation of the proto-Earth prior to that giant impact is unknown; almost all of the angular momentum is a consequence of that oblique giant impact.

If this hypothesis is correct, the Earth's would have rotated significantly faster than the current rotation rate of one rotation every 24 hours, instead rotating once every four to six hours. Our current rotation rate is a result of a gradual transfer of angular momentum from the Earth's rotation to the Moon's orbit. There are signs of this transfer in fossils and in rocks that show that the Earth did indeed rotate faster than it does now.

Mars
Mars is the terrestrial planet that is furthest from the Sun, it doesn't have a thick atmosphere, and it doesn't have a big moon. Mars appears to have been subject to some rather large late whacks, perhaps even an extremely big one that makes almost all of Mars' northern hemisphere a big impact crater. Perhaps Mars is the only terrestrial planet whose current rotation is close to its primordial rotation.

Mars however is rather close to Jupiter, and if the Grand Tack model is correct, it was even closer to Jupiter in the distant past. There is strong evidence that Mars' obliquity (axial tilt) has undergone chaotic variations in the past. Mars is yet another special case.

The giant planets
The giant planets are thought to have initially formed by a process similar to (but more rapid than) the way in which the terrestrial planets formed. That initial rocky/icy nucleus would have orbited the proto-Sun slightly faster than the gas and dust in the immediate vicinity. This enabled the proto giant planets to sweep up gas, ices, and dust from the protoplanetary disk. The density of the stuff that comprised the disk was anything but uniform, typically higher toward the protostar. The sweeping up of this non-uniform density would have imparted a torque on the protoplanet, overwhelming whatever random spin the nucleus had had. All four of the giant planets rotate rather quickly, and except for Uranus, they rotate more or less with the planet's orbit.

Jupiter
Jupiter's axial tilt is rather small, completely consistent with the dominant planetary formation model. Jupiter's rotation is the least surprising of the giant planets, most likely because Jupiter is the most massive of the giant planets.

Saturn
Saturn is Jupiter's smaller sibling, a gas giant that rotates quite rapidly. Saturn's rapid rotation is consistent with the planetary formation model. It's obliquity of 26.73° is a bit tougher to explain. Perhaps there was some interaction with one of the other giant planets (e.g., see William Ward and Douglas Hamilton, "Tilting saturn. I. Analytic model," The Astronomical Journal 128.5 (2004): 2501), or perhaps with a since-expelled fifth giant planet.

Uranus
Uranus is the odd planet out amongst the giant planets. Uranus' large axial tilt is second only to that of Venus. There are a number of questions and answers about Uranus' axial tilt on this site and sister stackexchange sites. For example, see Why is Uranus's axis of rotation tilted? and What is the accepted theory as to why Uranus' axis is tilted so severely?. In addition to the collision models described in the answers to those questions, a collision-free model has been proposed; see Gwenaël Boué and Jacques Laskar, "A collisionless scenario for Uranus tilting," The Astrophysical Journal Letters 712.1 (2010): L44.

Neptune
Neptune is Uranus' sibling. Both are ice giants with very similar masses and rotation rates. Neptune doesn't have Uranus' odd axial tilt. It does however have an axial tilt that isn't completely consistent with the planetary formation model. One explanation is the same as that for Saturn; see above.

Summary
Invoking conservation of angular momentum to explain the rotation of the Sun and the planets is a nice simple answer, but perhaps too simple. Explaining the initial rotations of the Sun and the planets and the evolution after that is non-trivial, and a number of open questions remain. Editorial: There's nothing wrong with having open questions in science. In fact, having those open questions is a good thing. It's core to what makes science science.

Q1 has been recently asked again (and quickly closed) and there's, I think, a simple and important illustration that also deserves to be added to this old question.

Consider the bulk of the proto-planet surrounded by more material, which is being attracted to it. Consider also that the material around this relatively small region in the accretion disk has approximately constant speed $v$: as the material converge to the local center of attraction, conservation of angular momentum

• increases the speed of the material originally orbiting at a larger radius and
• decreases the speed of the material originally orbiting at a smaller radius.

What it means is then more clearly seen in the proto-planet's reference of frame: a rotation around the local center of attraction, i.e., the proto-planet spins.

(I'm the author of this picture, but I'm pretty sure I didn't come up with its idea - I couldn't find it in a quick search, though, so if someone knows a reference that contains this explanation (or if it's wrong!), please, share in a comment.)

If we leave out Earth for a moment, it appears that rocky planets slow down linearly on their rotation periods - the closer they become to the Sun. Earth is an anomaly probably because of the Moon which has speeded up its rotation up considerably. According to my graph of this linear relationship between 'day' length and distance from the Sun, an Earth without the Moon would have days which are 1,960 hours long. So the Sun must have some influence on the rotation periods of each planet.

• You may want to look up "tidal locking". May 15, 2012 at 18:53