# Intro Mechanics: Finding ball speeds after collision

So I'm reading about conservation of energy, momentum, balls colliding etc. and unsurprisingly there are hundreds of questions in my textbook where essentially they give me some of the variables (m1, v1 and M2 for example) and then tell me to find the other variable (v2) simply by using the formulas

I am fine with doing that, however what I don't understand is actually how the 2-ball-system knows how to distribute the momentum and velocity between itself. Why shouldn't all the energy and momentum in the system go to one ball, or the other ball, or be a 50:50 split, or be such that velocity is the same for both balls and so arranges itself according to the masses, or any other principle?

• What do you mean "how does it know"? Are you asking why things obey the laws of physics? (That'd be essentially because the laws of physics were obtained by observing how things behave) – ACuriousMind Jul 30 '15 at 22:07
• How about just focusing the last sentence, if that is easier for you. Imagine 2 balls flying through the air hit each other at some angle - what stops all the momentum in the system from going to just one of the balls? – LanaDelRey Jul 30 '15 at 22:22
• For a hint, investigate "center of mass reference frame". – David White Jul 30 '15 at 22:30
• Also, have you tried to find another solution, whilst conserving Energy, Momentum AND their classic relation E=p^2/2m? – Bort Jul 31 '15 at 8:13
• As said by @ACuriousMind, the development of collisions were started first due to a petition(ok, request) put up by Royal Society of London in 1668. Contributions were made by John Wallis, Sir Christian Wren, Hugyens & Newton. The laws were made simply on the results of the experiment they had done. They never worked out on the inner mechanisms. That is highly intricate & depend on the properties of the substances. – user36790 Jul 31 '15 at 12:35

The answer is that there is no simple answer. The way that energy and momentum get split up in the aftermath of a collision depends on the details of the collision itself, and there is nothing in the conservation laws themselves that influences this.

The simplest case is in one-dimensional collisions, where both objects are constrained to move along the same line. Even in this simple system the ensuing dynamics are not completely determined, and they depend on how 'elastic' or 'inelastic' the collision is; that is, on how much kinetic energy is lost to other energetic channels. You can and should experiment with this: take carts on an air rail and make them collide with each other, both elastically (metal-on-metal should be fine, or add springs if not) and inelastically (use blue-tack to make them stick, or add e.g. a ball of paper that can be crumpled). You will find that the details of the collision affect the outcome, even for the same initial velocities.

When more dimensions are involved, the details of the collision become much more important, even for fully elastic collisions. This is again something you should experiment with, using a pool table or an air table or something similar. In general, the precise point of contact has a large influence on the collision outcome, and it is in such details that the balls 'decide' which way they're going, and how fast.

Isaac Newton observed the actions and reactions of objects in motion and recorded his observations as three famous laws. These laws (plus the conservation of momentum and of energy) can be used to explain how momentum and velocity are distributed among the objects coming out of a collision:

(1) An object in motion will remain in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless a net force acts upon it. Likewise, an object at rest will remain at rest unless a net force acts upon it.

(2) When a net force acts upon an object, the object will accelerate with a change of its speed, of its direction, or of both. The more massive the object, the greater will be the amount of net force required to accelerate it.

(3) Every action will produce an equal and opposite reaction.

If two balls collide in mid-air, either of two possibilities may result: (1) All their kinetic energy may remain kinetic and remain within the two-ball system, or (2) some of their kinetic energy may be converted to other forms of energy, such as potential energy, internal energy, heat, sound, etc. The first possibility is an elastic collision. The second possibility is an inelastic collision.

In the real world, no collision is perfectly elastic. But for our purposes, to keep things simple, let's assume that two baseballs collide head-on and bounce off of each other. We will ignore the loss of kinetic energy to noise and deformation of the baseballs. Prior to the collision, each ball had velocity, which is a vector consisting of speed and direction, and each ball had momentum, which is another vector consisting of the product of the ball's mass with its velocity.

At the instant of impact, a net force acted upon each ball. As we are assuming a perfectly elastic collision, all the kinetic energy of the system remained kinetic and remained within the system. A baseball weighs 145 grams (0.145 kg). Let's set up equations to track and account for what happened:

Ball 1's velocity: V1 = 30 meters per second

Ball 1's Momentum: M1 = 0.145 kg * 30 mps = 4.35 kg m/s

Ball 2's velocity: V2 = 40 meters per second

Ball 2's Momentum: M2 = 0.145 kg * 40 mps = 5.8 kg m/s

The kinetic energy (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/ke.html) of each ball before the collision was:

Ball 1's kinetic energy: KE1 = 1/2 * 0.145 kg * (30 mps)^2 = 65.25 joules

Ball 2's kinetic energy: KE2 = 1/2 * 0.145 kg * (40 mps)^2 = 116 joules

As the balls hit head-on, their trajectories reverse 180 degrees when they bounce off each other in an elastic collision. Both the energy and the momentum of the system must be conserved in the collision, as they are conserved quantities (they can be neither created nor destroyed in a closed system). What goes into the collision must come out of the collision. Scroll to the last box in this link for an explanation of why this must be so: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/elacol.html.

Newton's 1st law of motion tells us that each ball's trajectory stops and reverses in the collision. Going into the collision, each ball's momentum differs, as does their kinetic energy. How is the energy and momentum distributed between the balls coming out of the collision?

Per Newton's 3rd law, the force exerted by B1 on B2 must be opposed by an equal and opposite force exerted by B2 on B1. As there is one instantaneous collision, the momentum coming out is divided equally between the two balls, which I will show below. Coming out of the collision, because their momenta and masses are equal, both velocities must be equal. Here is another way to explain the process: http://scienceblogs.com/dotphysics/2008/12/12/basics-collisions-interactions-between-two-objects/. The link uses the concept of forces involved in the collision to illustrate the change in momentum of each object.

In our example above, according to Newton's 2nd law:

Change in momentum of B1 = ∆M1 = Net Force applied by B2 * time applied

Change in momentum of B2 = ∆M2 = Net Force applied by B1 * time applied

As the net forces applied by each to the other become the same force at the instant of impact, we can say that B1 net force = minus B2 net force (Newton's 3rd law). Or, as the two balls have the same magnitude of force acting on them for the same instant of time, the change in their momentum must also be the same, but with reversed signs.

In our example above:

Total momentum of the system = 4.35 kg m/s + 5.8 kg m/s = ~10.2 kg m/s

As ∆M1 = -∆M2, and as momentum must be conserved between the two balls in this perfectly elastic collision, each ball must leave the collision with 1/2 * 10.2 kg m/s = 5.1 kg m/s magnitude of momentum. Their velocities are the same, because the mass of each is the same. But if the mass of one were greater than the other, the velocity of the more massive must be smaller than the less massive in order to make their momenta equal.

Likewise, kinetic energy is conserved between the two balls in this perfectly elastic collision, so each leaves the collision with 65.25 joules + 116 joules = ~181 joules / 2 = ~90 joules of kinetic energy.

In the real world, no collision is perfectly elastic, so this example is an ideal simplification.