# What is the resonant frequency of liquid water?

I learned it's not 2.45 GHz. But what is it, then? In my failure to find the real value, I'm starting to wonder: does it even make sense talking about a resonant frequency of water molecules?

• There isn't a single number. As those diagrams in your link show, there are multiple degrees of freedom each of which will have its own resonance frequency. But they are certainly known (I could compute them myself if I were so inclined). I'll let someone else dig out the precise values but they will be of the same order of magnitude as those three examples in your link ($\sim 10^{14}$ Hz). – lemon Mar 8 '15 at 23:09
• your link is rich ... see also the paragraph The vibrational spectra of liquid water – user46925 Jan 2 '16 at 5:48
• The problem with that article is that it mistakenly believes the resonance of the water body as the resonance of the water molecules. They are like saying, the resonance frequency of an iron bar is the resonance frequency of the metallic bond between the iron atoms. Which is absolutely ridiculous. – Cynthia Avishegnath Dec 4 '16 at 7:48
• Yes, and intermolecular forces also act on the molecules. – jjack Dec 16 '17 at 10:44
• Which is sort of at the basis of the question. What do you think of when you think of water. A water molecule or a continuum body of molecules. – jjack Dec 16 '17 at 10:47

It depends on what you mean by resonate.

Water has three different vibrational modes - there are vibrational frequencies associated with these, but these are not really oscillations like a mass on a spring which we would be familiar with seeing. The webpage you link has some 'vibrational frequencies' of different molcules and notes they are significantly higher than the 2.45 GHz microwave range.

So water can be excited rotationally by 2.45 GHz - the rotational behaviour of water as single molecules in the gas phase is very complicated. Water is an 'asymmetric rotor', which turns out to be the hardest to understand. In liquid water the rotation is further complicated by collisions between adjacent molecules.

2.45 GHz is used is because it is a standard frequency that is allowed and doesn't interfere with licensed communications systems, part of the 2.4 GHz ISM band.

A lot of questions and answers here raise more ambiguity without addressing the fundamental underlying principle of the microwave-water interaction. A microwave heats (imparts kinetic energy) to water not through resonance (that would be an absurd preposition given water has ridiculously high mechanical resonance frequency) but rather from dipole interaction.

Water being a polar molecule gets activated by effect of its dipole moment (of about 2d) in a microwave field. The resulting molecules spin, being translated rotationally.

To answer your question: no, it doesn't make sense talking about a resonant frequency of water at the molecular level. At those levels, sound or other forms of classical excitation cannot achieve sustained resonance given the vast normal modes and DOF of liquid molecules.

The lowest resonance of the water molecule is 22.235 GHz. This frequency is almost 10 times higher than the operating frequency of the microwave oven (2.45 GHz).

• I wasn't able to find any reference confirming this. – Wood Jan 7 '16 at 4:54

What is important in the idea of resonance with water is to establish a frequency of excitation that causes the natural frequencies to superimpose or wave superposition. By achieving wave superposition the amplitude of the oscillations will have the greatest potential of breaking the molecule into its elemental constituents thereby creating free atoms that can recombine to form the diatomic molecules desired. H2 and O2 Oddly enough chemistry and properties of elements can play into this process as the electrodes used if they are constructed of platinum will result in a better yield from hydrolysis. This may be the result of how the atomic structure of platinum releases electrons through solution. A similar process has been observed in certain solar cells as alloys of atoms are placed on layers of silicon substrate creating a resonant cavity to enhance voltage production through the capture of photons. The explanation comes from the energy level of exchange of electrons during enthalpy processes that exceed the enthalpy energy required to break the covalent bonds of H2O.

• I don't believe this answers the question. – Jon Custer Jul 22 '15 at 23:43