# How to measure faster than light electric energy?

According to relativity,nothing can break light barrier.But a recent preprint shows energy transmission of commercial electric power (f=60Hz) is faster than light. (It is not the drift velocity of electrons because energy transport depends on the electromagnetic field instead of charged particles). Moreover, the speed increases as its frequency decreases so the value is infinity for a direct current (f=0).That is action at a distance (instantaneous interaction)!

My question is whether it is possible to design a circuit to compare this speed with c in lab? For example,time-delay of an electromagnetic signal through a free space distance of 3m is $10^{-8}\text{ s}$. As to direct current along a copper wire, however, there should be no delay. Is the difference detectable? I'm interested to the experiment because it is of substantial significance to measure the rate of electric power for electrical engineering not matter the result can exceed c or not.

• Also be aware that you can get a paper on arxiv without peer review. – Colin K Aug 24 '11 at 3:00
• Often times very strange papers make it through the very rudimentary process on arXiv (example: arxiv.org/pdf/0710.3438v1 ). Without link it would be hard to understand what is being said. – Benjamin Horowitz Aug 24 '11 at 5:03
• Looking at the link, I see that it's not just a preprint but an actual published paper - which doesn't necessarily make it true, but this is at least something worth looking into. – David Z Aug 24 '11 at 8:09
• The "speed of light" in a transmission line is lower than c, for the record. There is, of course, a delay when propagating DC down a cable (step function). Not sure what this paper is saying. "They lead to a same conclusion that energy(mass) can exceed the speed of light in vacuum." – endolith Aug 24 '11 at 19:24
• Something similiar from the 1980's gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Journal%20Reprints-Mechanics%20/… Showing evidence of 2 different superluminal velocities one instantaneous and one at 2*C along coaxial cable. I tried to replicate it in the early nineties using fast photodiodes at different distances picking up a flash of light and relaying through different lengths of co-ax but I did not find anything, but my test equipment was being really pushed. I intend to try again when i retire :) – user38581 Jan 30 '14 at 8:08

In physics where where you make time critical measurements you often use the fast nim signal, which is essential a dc signal. To make e.g one signal arrive later at your electronics you use delay boxes, that is just cable inside a box. You can also use small pieces of cable to make a small delay, and it is usually written on the cable how much delay it corresponds to e.g. 1 nano second (= app 20 cm cable).