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With quantum field theory, particles are seen as excitation on various fields. Am I mistaken to think that then particles merely refer to "relatively stable" patterns that can appear on these fields? I assume the answer is yes, and in that case I have a couple questions: are interactions depicted in Feynman diagrams approximations of what actually happens in the involved fields? And is that why individual nucleons can't be perceived as being "neatly compartmentalized" inside the nucleus, if that even is true, in that if you were able to precisely take a look at the field, you wouldn't necessarily be able to recognize individual patterns corresponding to each individual nucleons?

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There is no such thing as "looking at a quantum field", and particles aren't just "relatively stable patterns". You're thinking about this with a classical intuition (that there are things and that they have unambiguous properties and that you can look at them), but classical intuition does not apply in the quantum realm, and indeed intuition as such is a hard tool to master in the context of quantum field theory - we need to retrain our intuition to conform to what the theory says, not try to twist the theory into fitting the classical world in which our intuition was formed.

Fields - both classical and quantum - should not necessarily be imbued with the idea that they are some sort of substance we could look at, see this question and its answers for a longer discussion of the ontology of fields. Physics, especially quantum physics, provides a mathematical model of the world that allows us to predict what we will observe, but it does not necessarily select a specific ontology - no unique idea of "what there really is", whatever that means. There is nothing observable about "the electron field" except electrons and positrons, we cannot "look" at this field in any other way than the particles and processes we associate with it.

It is, as far as we know (cf. searches for proton decay), a fact that an isolated proton is infinitely stable, and so is a single photon that doesn't have anything else to interact with, or a single electron. There's nothing relative about this, and nothing approximate. Some particles are stable, others aren't, but this has nothing to do with them being "excitations" - insofar as it is meaningful to say that particles are excitations of fields, all particles are such excitations, stable or not. The impossibility of separating a nucleon like the proton into neat smaller constituents is due to the strongly interacting nature of quantum chromodynamics, which makes the perturbative approach in which the particles we associated with free fields are a good approximation impossible. See this question and its linked questions for more discussion of the internal structure of hadrons.

The problem here is what it actually means to say that a particle is "an excitation of a field". All physicists agree about the technical sense - the modes of a free field become creation/annihilation operators during quantization and then construct particle states - but there is no necessary implication between that technical sense and the vague idea of a particle as some sort of wave in a material field that seems to be implied by your question. See also this question and its answers for a longer discussion of the sense in which quantum fields "oscillate" or get "excited". The problem is, again, imbuing a formal description with intuitve ontological weight it does not actually carry within itself.

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  • $\begingroup$ When I say look I mean that from a purely mathematical and abstract perspective, not that we could observe it physically with some experiment. When I say relatively stable I add "relatively" to include particles that have a very short lifespan while still excluding whatever else there might be during the (probably, idk) even shorter time an interaction happens between two particles colliding at very high speed, if at any point there happened to be perturbations in the field that cannot be regarded as particles right before it turns into particles. (cont.) $\endgroup$
    – Uro
    Commented Sep 19, 2022 at 14:38
  • $\begingroup$ However I understand now from reading anna v's answer and yours that I had a completely wrong idea of particles and fields. I didn't know that there were fields for particles, and thought particles were an emergent result of the way other fields interacted with each other, with no specific field "dedicated" to those particles. Also in the previous comment, I am probably not using "perturbation" with the right meaning for that word, but I cannot find a better word. $\endgroup$
    – Uro
    Commented Sep 19, 2022 at 14:38
  • $\begingroup$ Also, can't edit my first comment, by "whatever else there might be" I didn't mean actual things but perturbations, but it doesn't matter since the whole idea was based on a misunderstanding. $\endgroup$
    – Uro
    Commented Sep 19, 2022 at 14:47
  • $\begingroup$ You say There is nothing observable about "the electron field" except electrons and positrons -- but even the ontology of electrons and positrons is not totally clear and depends on which level of (scientific) realism you believe. $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 4 at 17:44
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Am I mistaken to think that then particles merely refer to "relatively stable" patterns that can appear on these fields?

In the field theoretical standard model of particle physics, the particles in the table are assumed to exist axiomatically,as point particles with their individuality assured by the quantum numbers and mass. There is nothing "relative" in their presumed existence. The field theory assumes that for each particle in the table exists a field, an electron field , a neutrino field etc. and creation and annihilation differential operators act on these fields to create and destroy the particles. That is the way they are used in the Feynman diagrams.

if you were able to precisely take a look at the field,

Does it have a meaning to "precisely look at the coordinate (x,y,z,t), there is an infinite number of them? The fields are like that to the creation and annihilation operators.

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  • $\begingroup$ If there's nothing relative about particles, how do you explain the Unruh effect? $\endgroup$
    – ajd138
    Commented Sep 20, 2022 at 0:28
  • $\begingroup$ @ajd138 with field theory, which is based on the table of particles, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect $\endgroup$
    – anna v
    Commented Sep 20, 2022 at 3:33
  • $\begingroup$ I don't get what you mean, different observers will count differing numbers of particles in the Unruh effect $\endgroup$
    – ajd138
    Commented Sep 20, 2022 at 4:59
  • $\begingroup$ are you talking of this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect#Unruh_radiation ? not the virtual exchanges? It seems to be controversial,. In any case different observers means different, extra interactions entering the solutions at the quantum level, and there is no conservation of real photon numbers in QFT $\endgroup$
    – anna v
    Commented Sep 20, 2022 at 8:21

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