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When solving the expression for displacement of an accelerating object and solving for the time variable: $$v_it+\frac{1}{2}at^2=d$$ $$v_it+\frac{1}{2}at^2-d=0$$ $$t=\frac{-v_i\pm \sqrt{v^2_i+2ad}}{a}$$ $$t=\frac{-v_i\pm v_f}{a}$$ where $a$ is acceleration, $t$ is time, $v_i$ is initial velocity, $v_f$ is final velocity, and $d$ is displacement.

How do I know if I should choose + or - on the last step? Is there a way do select the physical solution without any additional information?

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    $\begingroup$ How did you get to use $v_f^2 = v_i^2+2ad$? I would have thought $v_f=v_i+at$ was much more natural $\endgroup$
    – Henry
    Commented Jan 20, 2022 at 2:23
  • $\begingroup$ @Henry I got $v^2_f=v^2_i+2ad$ from a Physics book. $v_f=v_i+at$ also works. $\endgroup$
    – user324326
    Commented Jan 20, 2022 at 2:27
  • $\begingroup$ $v_f=v_i+at$ works better in this case, since it gives a single value for $v_f$ and so for $t$. $\endgroup$
    – Henry
    Commented Jan 20, 2022 at 2:29
  • $\begingroup$ @Henry the radicand in the third step contained $v^2_f$. I didn't find any natural occurrences of $v_i + at$ while working out the problem. $\endgroup$
    – user324326
    Commented Jan 20, 2022 at 2:33
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    $\begingroup$ If $v_i$ is positive and $v_f$ is positive, you can't get a positive answer when you take $-v_i$ and subtract $v_f$ from it. Check your choice of positive direction and positive velocity, and make sure that you chose consistent directions for both. Also, if you have a case where both roots are positive, show your work so others in this forum can give you a more specific answer. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 21, 2022 at 3:26

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The equation you are solving is $$v_i t + \frac{1}{2} a t^2 = d$$ Imagine what that means physically. You shoot a bullet up in the air, that reaches the highest point and then falls back to earth. The equation asks at what time it reaches a distance $d$ above you. It can reach that distance on the way up or on the way down, so the equation has (or can have) two solutions.

Now, in the real problem, you are not given $d$, but $v_f$. You can calculate $d$ from $v_f$, and then solve the equation. Or you can use the identity $v_f^2 = v_i^2 + 2ad$ as you did. But the sign of $v_f$ also tells you whether the bullet reached $d$ on the way up or on the way down. So $v_f$ gives information about which of the solutions is correct.

Of course, it is much easier to use the relationship:

$$ v_f = v_i + a t$$

to solve that for $t$ directly, without this detour.

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