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I am just beginning a research project on the study of closed orbits, specifically as related to hydrogen, and I wanted a little bit more information on what exactly makes something a "closed orbit". In several of the following questions I will reference a thesis text that I am reading which is the basis for my attempt to computationally model the closed orbits of hydrogen.

$1.$ What model of the atom does closed orbit theory use? My intuition suggests that we should use the Bohr model, with a closed orbit occurring when the electron returns to the Bohr radius around the core. This seems simple and it allows us to remain in cartesian coordinates as there will be no singularity at $r = 0$. However, the thesis I am reading uses a semi-parabolic coordinate system and converts the Hydrogen Hamiltonian to a scaled energy form to eliminate the dependence on the external electric field and coulomb force. The author writes that this new form of scaled energy allows us to disregard the nucleus as the electron has no dependence on it. Why are we allowed to eliminate the proton in this model of hydrogen?

$2.$ I understand that closed orbit theory involves highly excited atoms but I am not sure what principal quantum $n$ is appropriate for the atom to be sufficiently excited. The thesis I am reading uses the value $n = 30$ but I don't understand why.

Thanks for the help! It is greatly appreciated!

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  • $\begingroup$ The answers to your questions likely will require the thesis you are extracting some information from. Could you provide a link (or least an author, title & year)? $\endgroup$
    – Kyle Kanos
    Commented May 24, 2015 at 23:24
  • $\begingroup$ Unfortunately, the thesis is not available online. I have a physical copy of it that I am working from. $\endgroup$
    – Lann625
    Commented May 24, 2015 at 23:53
  • $\begingroup$ What about the author, title & year? It's possible that the thesis is available through inter-library loan systems. $\endgroup$
    – Kyle Kanos
    Commented May 25, 2015 at 0:40
  • $\begingroup$ Author: Andrew Murphy Title: Classical Phase Space and Trajectory Studies of H, He, Li, and H2. Year: 2011 $\endgroup$
    – Lann625
    Commented May 25, 2015 at 0:43

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The closed orbits are those classical trajectories that can never leave the system and these closed orbits are then correlate with Quantun interference. To under this closed orbit theory read following articles:

  1. PRL 58, 1731 (1987)

  2. PRA 38, 1896 (1988)

  3. PRA 38, 1913 (1988)

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    $\begingroup$ Could you maybe elaborate on how this is done? And could you maybe additionally summarize how the articles you refer to relate to the question? This would be very helpful! $\endgroup$
    – Martin
    Commented Jul 27, 2015 at 11:15

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