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Referring particularly to

http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9909056

in regard to the wave equation for Schwarzschild-AdS black holes (p.4), I'm trying to understand tortoise coordinates.

So starting with the 4-dimensionalSchwarzschild-AdS metric in the general form

$$ds^2=-f(r )dt^2+\frac{dr^2}{f(r )}+r^2(d\theta^2+sin^2 \theta d\phi^2),$$

if I want to find the wave equation $\Box \phi=0$ in the Schrodinger-like form. This is done by introducing the separation of variables

$$\phi=\frac{\psi(r ) Y(\theta,\phi)e^{-i\omega t}}{r}$$

and then using the tortoise coordinate $dr_*=\frac{dr}{f(r )}$ to get

$$(\partial_{r_*}^2+\omega^2-V(r_*))\psi=0.$$

But I don't fully understand what this tortoise coordinate really does. In fact when I go through these calculations myself, I use the transformation

$$\psi'(r ) \to \frac{\psi'(r )}{f(r )}$$

and (fortunately) get the Schrodinger like form as in the paper above. However, they never explicitly state the potential and what I find is

$$V(r_*)=\frac{-\ell(\ell+1) f(r )+rf'(r )}{r^2}.$$

where $\ell$ is the angular momentum mode. But note, in my transformation, I never mentioned $r_*$ and hence why my $V(r_*)$ doesn't actually mention an $r_*$. This is where my confusion lies.

Is my potential right if I just replace the $r$ by $r_*$? i.e

$$V(r_*)=\frac{-\ell(\ell+1) f(r_* )+r_*f'(r_* )}{r_*^2}?$$

(I highly doubt it.) And if not, how do I recover $V(r )$ from here?

P.s. It would actually also be extremely helpful if someone knew $V(r )$, i.e. potential in original coordinates, for the Schwarzschild-AdS black hole.

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  • $\begingroup$ You want to know the effect of the tortoise coordinate in this case and not in the simple case of a Schwarzschild metric, right? Just checking to make sure I understand. $\endgroup$
    – HDE 226868
    Commented Aug 24, 2014 at 18:35
  • $\begingroup$ @HDE226868 The Schwarzschild $AdS$ would certainly be the most helpful as it's the one I'm considering. What I'd really like to know is an explicit expression for both $V(r_+)$ and $V(r )$ and then maybe I'll be able to work from there. Right now the tortoise co-ordinate is confusing me. $\endgroup$
    – Phibert
    Commented Aug 24, 2014 at 20:13
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    $\begingroup$ Could anyone tell me why it's called the tortoise coordinate? $\endgroup$
    – Danu
    Commented Aug 24, 2014 at 21:47
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    $\begingroup$ @Danu: The wiki page I've added to the text says it's due to Zeno's paradox involving Achilles racing a tortoise (Achilles cannot catch up to the tortoise (given a head start) b/c he always has to go half the distance); as such as $r\to2GM$, then the "tortoise" coodinate blows up (down?) to $-\infty$ (that is, someone approaching the Schwarszchild radius keeps getting further and further, I think, from the tortoise coordinate). $\endgroup$
    – Kyle Kanos
    Commented Aug 25, 2014 at 0:03
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    $\begingroup$ No, your potential necessarily has to be expressed in function of $r$, because there is not simple analytic function describing $r(r^*)$. See for instance, in the context of a standard Schwarzschild metrics (but applicable to your case with a function $f$), formulae $(14) \to (24)$ in this paper [be careful, for the formula $(24)$, in this paper $f = 1 - 2m/r$, so this must be changed for the AdS case] $\endgroup$
    – Trimok
    Commented Aug 25, 2014 at 11:14

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The form of $V$ does not change. What you mean by $V(r_*)$ is $V(r(r_*))$ so you would've to explicitly find $r$ in terms of $r_*$ (which is impossible) to fully express your potential in terms of $r_*$.

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