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I was reading about entanglement and Bell's theorem and played around with the idea. Specifically the point that the correlation of the measurement of entangled electrons at arbitrary angles is given by the cosine and therefore doesn't allow hidden variables. Can't I just derive this cosine like in the following example?

Let's assume the entangled electrons spin at a specific angle all along. This is some point along the unit circle in the coordinate system below. Here the $\sin$ and $\cos$ will give the amplitude for the direction in the specific setup used. If Alice is measuring "up" Bob will measure "down" with a correlation given by -cos(angle of detectors).

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Now comes the hand-wavy part: It feels somewhat natural to me that the discrepancy of measurement outcomes has something to do with the overlapping area in this diagram. Now since we're looking at up/down measurement let's just integrate over the amplitudes ($\sin$) in this angle range. And if we squint a bit ($-1$) the correlation $-\cos(\theta)$ pops right out.

$$\int_0^\theta \sin(x) dx - 1 = -\cos(\theta)$$

Therefore, why aren't the electrons just happily spinning at their specific angle all along?

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    $\begingroup$ I don't really understand the relation between this and Bell's theorem. Which version of the theorem are you thinking about? $\endgroup$
    – glS
    Commented Mar 20, 2021 at 12:44
  • $\begingroup$ I'm sorry if I'm using the wrong terminology. In "Something Deeply Hidden" by Sean Carroll he states rather flatly that any local theory is impossible because measurements at an angle of 45deg are correlated 71% instead of 50%. I then headed to Wikipedia which also states that "[...] the existence of local hidden variables [...] according to Bell's inequality, could not agree with the dependence predicted by quantum mechanical theory, namely, that the correlation is the negative cosine of the angle." $\endgroup$
    – Christian
    Commented Mar 21, 2021 at 13:41
  • $\begingroup$ Your electrons are in an unentangled state. Of course you will not get any Bell violations from unentangled electrons. $\endgroup$
    – WillO
    Commented Nov 18, 2022 at 17:19
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    $\begingroup$ I think the actual rule is $\cos^2(\theta/2)$. $\endgroup$
    – Mauricio
    Commented Mar 24, 2023 at 2:22
  • $\begingroup$ Part I: For entangled electrons in singlet state (i.e. opposite outcomes at the same angle): The Match % is sin^2(θ/2) with a range of 0 to 1. The MisMatch % is cos^2(θ/2) with a range of 0 to 1. Correlation % is Matches - Mismatches. Therefore the Correlation % is sin^2(θ/2)-cos^2(θ/2) with a range of -1 to 1. This is the same as -cos(θ), due to the formula: cos(θ)=cos^2(θ/2)-sin^2(θ/2). When considering the prediction for a single electron with a known spin angle measured at theta relative to that, the Match % is cos^2(θ/2). $\endgroup$
    – DrChinese
    Commented Jan 6 at 18:56

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The realization that there is a problem with a correlation dependent on -cos(θ) may not be intuitively obvious. Which is probably why it took 10+ years after Bohm's work on spin entanglement in the early 1950's for someone like Bell to figure it out.

Theta is a difference between 2 measurement angles. Because it is not straight line linear for the difference, at some point you realize that the dependence is actually contextual - based only on a future pair of measurement angles. In other words, you would expect a theta of 45 degrees to yield exactly a value of twice a theta of 22.5 degrees (for example). But that doesn't happen. Instead, the relationship changes much faster. Matches at 22.5 degrees are about 3.8%, but at 45 degrees are about 14.6%. The Matches from 0 to 22.5 degrees plus the Matches from 22.5 to 45 degrees should be the same (or less) as from 0 to 45 degrees.

It may take a while to see why this is so. But usually, references to the cosine or sine relationship for theta is based on this general argument. Of course, it is even better to follow the Bell argument first so that you can see specific relationships that cannot be possible under standard QM (but would be possible under local realism).

Or, to answer your question a different way: nothing looks amiss which you only look at 2 angles and use -cos(theta) for Correlation. It is when you start comparing hypothetical values for 3 or more values that you see the relationships won't ever work out.

If there are hidden variables, then there should be relationships that work out for all possible values - simultaneously. The "simultaneous" condition was assumed in EPR (1935). But if you read Bell, he essentially uses your example as his starting point. See Bell 1964: https://www.informationphilosopher.com/solutions/scientists/bell/Bell_On_EPR.pdf formulae (6) and (7). And then develops his contradictions from there, explicitly modeling simultaneous relationships.

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I asked this question a while ago, wherein I ask for more information about how the probabilities are calculated when photons spins are measured at different angles. The equation is:

$$\frac12\sin^2 (20^\circ)$$

Now, you can stop reading my post now and read the article I linked to in my other question, or I could try to do it justice by explaining it here:

We know based on the above formula that if you measure the photons with measuring devices at certain angles relative to each other, or to some base line "0degree" angle, you'll get these results:

same angle: 100% anti-correlation, 0% same results
0∘ 20∘: 5.8% both passed through the filter
20∘ 40∘: 5.8% both passed through the filter (this is equivalent to 0-20)
0∘ 40∘: 20.7% both passed through the filter

The statistical trick here is to notice that, if the spins were pre-set prior to measurement, as soon as the entangled photons were 'created' and went their separate ways, ALL photon pairs in the third group should either ALSO be in the first group or the second group.

So let's try to talk about why that's the case. What we do is we simplify it: All the statistics above talk about 2 photons, let's call it the 'left' photon and the 'right' photon. We can take the experimental results and just talk about one photon.

0∘ 40∘: 20.7% both passed through the filter

For 20.7% of entangled pairs, the left one passed at 0∘ and the right one passed at 40∘. Now, knowing what we know about entangled photons, we know that if the right one passed at 40∘, then we know that counterfactually if the left one was measured at 40∘ it would not have passed.

S we can translate 0∘ 40∘: 20.7% both passed through the filter to 20.7% of left-photons passed at 0∘ and would not have passed at 40∘

By a similar process of reasoning, we can simplify the other two statements:

0∘ 20∘: 5.8% both passed through the filter becomes 5.8% of left-photons passed at 0∘ and would not have passed at 20∘

20∘ 40∘: 5.8% both passed through the filter becomes 5.8% of left-photons passed at 20∘ and would not have passed at 40∘

So I'll make all the statements again in their new form:

group A: 5.8% of left-photons passed at 0∘ and would not have passed at 20∘
group B: 5.8% of left-photons passed at 20∘ and would not have passed at 40∘
group C: 20.7% of left-photons passed at 0∘ and would not have passed at 40∘

If we look at that 20.7% group again, keeping in mind that we know that these photons have spins that are set in stone as soon as they go their separate ways, we then ask the counterfactual question: what if I had measured all 20.7% of these left-photons at 20∘ instead?

There's only two possible answers: either it would pass at 20∘, or it would not pass at 20∘.

If it would pass at 20∘, then this particular photon must be a group B photon. Because group B photons pass at 20∘ and don't pass at 40∘.

And if it would not pass at 20∘, then this particular photon must be a group A photon. Because group A photons pass at 0∘, and don't pass at 20∘.

All group C photons MUST be either group A or group B photons, if you assume that their spins are set in stone.

But group A and group B together make up only (5.8*2) 11.6% of photons. And group C photons make up 20.7% of photons. There aren't enough group A and group B photons to account for all the photons we see in group C.

There is no way to set up a dataset of photons with preset spins that will pass test A, B, and C in the observed percentages. So either (a) the photons know how we're going to measure them, and they're conspiring to trick us, or (b) the spin really isn't set in stone as soon as these photons go their separate ways, and there's some other explanation for the measured correlations.

I hope that made sense.

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