Timeline for Is the speed of a single gas molecule in a box moderated (is the Maxwell Boltzmann curve narrowed)?
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| Nov 26, 2023 at 13:20 | comment | added | David Porter | My, relatively layman's, understanding of the second law of thermodynamics is that it's often broken regarding a group of, say, 5 or 10, molecules, so I assume it's broken also by a group of, say, a thousand molecules, though extremely rarely. I just wanted to illustrate that it is an observed law, not an imposed law, giving hope to the prospect of making a device designed to break it on an even larger scale. Otherwise no-one will even try. | |
| Nov 25, 2023 at 14:18 | comment | added | hyportnex | you wrote: "it is broken sometimes on a larger scale", what specifically you have in mind here? | |
| Nov 25, 2023 at 8:11 | comment | added | David Porter | Many thanks (including for your patience). I get it, there would be thermal consistency throughout the whole process, or rather non-process. | |
| Nov 25, 2023 at 7:59 | comment | added | naturallyInconsistent | I am trying to tell you that these physical considerations are necessary to get chemical reactions correct, even if there is no chemical process in your particular situation. No, the zeolite would have to be modelled by a different distribution, related to the Maxwell-Boltzmann. It does not matter, because thermal equilibrium requires that the different distributions be mathematically compatible with each other. | |
| Nov 25, 2023 at 7:58 | comment | added | David Porter | I suppose the answer may be "Yes, but it would make no difference". Ah well. All hopes on nuclear fusion. | |
| Nov 25, 2023 at 7:50 | comment | added | David Porter | Is the Maxwell Boltzmann curve for the zeolite, though very much lower than for the gas, also a narrower curve; narrower because it's a solid, bound: less kinetic energy, more electrical(?) energy? | |
| Nov 25, 2023 at 7:35 | comment | added | David Porter | Hmm. There's no chemical process. Nevertheless, it won't work. I wonder if the gas is moderated though, and if there's a potential idea there? | |
| Nov 25, 2023 at 7:30 | comment | added | naturallyInconsistent | Considerations like these are standard for chemical processes. Nothing weird will happen; the system will find an equilibrium so that the rate of the gas coming out of the solvent is the same rate as the gas absorbed by the solvent, on both sides of the solvent, which can be different if the situation requires it. It will not be able to act as a Maxwell's demon. The zeolite wall has a temperature, and the gas molecules that bounce off that will equilibriate with that, ending up with the same kinetic energy distribution before and after collisions. | |
| Nov 25, 2023 at 7:24 | history | edited | David Porter | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| S Nov 25, 2023 at 7:21 | history | asked | David Porter | CC BY-SA 4.0 |