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I am writing a note about the Poincare group and I am trying to explain that argument that one-particle state transforms under irreducible unitary representations of the Poincare group. However, there are some ambiguities which confuse me.

  1. Is a composite particle transformation under an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group? For example, a proton consists of some quarks. It seems they can't be separated by just rotating or translating or boosting, therefore it does form an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group, even though it's not a fundamental particle.
  2. The irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group is characterised by mass and spin, which are given by two Casimir operators ($P^2$ and $W^2$). However, the electron and positron have the same mass and spin, but definitely different particles. So it seems the original argument has a loophole and we should somehow incorporate CPT transformation to modify the original argument. If I'm right, how to incorporate CPT in the original argument?

Edit: I just found that both questions are explained in Winberg Chapter Two, but I would still appreciate it if you could provide some referencessomeone would like to explain it again.

I am writing a note about the Poincare group and I am trying to explain that argument that one-particle state transforms under irreducible unitary representations of the Poincare group. However, there are some ambiguities which confuse me.

  1. Is a composite particle transformation under an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group? For example, a proton consists of some quarks. It seems they can't be separated by just rotating or translating or boosting, therefore it does form an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group, even though it's not a fundamental particle.
  2. The irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group is characterised by mass and spin, which are given by two Casimir operators ($P^2$ and $W^2$). However, the electron and positron have the same mass and spin, but definitely different particles. So it seems the original argument has a loophole and we should somehow incorporate CPT transformation to modify the original argument. If I'm right, how to incorporate CPT in the original argument?

I would appreciate it if you could provide some references.

I am writing a note about the Poincare group and I am trying to explain that argument that one-particle state transforms under irreducible unitary representations of the Poincare group. However, there are some ambiguities which confuse me.

  1. Is a composite particle transformation under an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group? For example, a proton consists of some quarks. It seems they can't be separated by just rotating or translating or boosting, therefore it does form an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group, even though it's not a fundamental particle.
  2. The irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group is characterised by mass and spin, which are given by two Casimir operators ($P^2$ and $W^2$). However, the electron and positron have the same mass and spin, but definitely different particles. So it seems the original argument has a loophole and we should somehow incorporate CPT transformation to modify the original argument. If I'm right, how to incorporate CPT in the original argument?

Edit: I just found that both questions are explained in Winberg Chapter Two, but I would still appreciate it if someone would like to explain it again.

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I am writing a note about the Poincare group and I am trying to explain that argument that one-particle state transforms under irreducible unitary representations of the Poincare group. However, there are some ambiguities which confuse me.

  1. Is a composite particle transformation under an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group? For example, a proton consists of some quarks. It seems they can't be separated by just rotating or translating or boosting, therefore it does form an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group, even though it's not a fundamental particle.
  2. The irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group is characterised by mass and spin, which are given by two Casimir operators (momentum$P^2$ and PL$W^2$). However, the electron and positron have the same mass and spin, but definitely different particles. So it seems the original argument has a loophole and we should somehow incorporate CPT transformation andto modify the original argument. If I'm right, how to incorporate CPT in the original argument?

I would appreciate it if you could provide some references.

I am writing a note about the Poincare group and I am trying to explain that argument that one-particle state transforms under irreducible unitary representations of the Poincare group. However, there are some ambiguities which confuse me.

  1. Is a composite particle transformation under an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group? For example, a proton consists of some quarks. It seems they can't be separated by just rotating or translating or boosting, therefore it does form an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group, even though it's not a fundamental particle.
  2. The irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group is characterised by mass and spin, which are two Casimir operators (momentum and PL). However, the electron and positron have the same mass and spin, but definitely different particles. So it seems we should somehow incorporate CPT transformation and modify the original argument. If I'm right, how to incorporate CPT in the original argument?

I would appreciate it if you could provide some references.

I am writing a note about the Poincare group and I am trying to explain that argument that one-particle state transforms under irreducible unitary representations of the Poincare group. However, there are some ambiguities which confuse me.

  1. Is a composite particle transformation under an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group? For example, a proton consists of some quarks. It seems they can't be separated by just rotating or translating or boosting, therefore it does form an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group, even though it's not a fundamental particle.
  2. The irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group is characterised by mass and spin, which are given by two Casimir operators ($P^2$ and $W^2$). However, the electron and positron have the same mass and spin, but definitely different particles. So it seems the original argument has a loophole and we should somehow incorporate CPT transformation to modify the original argument. If I'm right, how to incorporate CPT in the original argument?

I would appreciate it if you could provide some references.

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I am writing a note about the Poincare group and I am trying to explain that argument that one-particle state transforms under irreducible unitary representations of the Poincare group. However, there are some ambiguities which confuse me.

  1. Is a composite particle transformation under an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group.? For example, a proton consists of some quarks. It seems they can't be separated by just rotating or translating or boosting, therefore it does form an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group, even though it's not a fundamental particle.
  2. The irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group is characterised by mass and spin, which are two Casimir operators (momentum and PL). However, the electron and positron have the same mass and spin, but definitely different particles. So it seems we should somehow incorporate CPT transformation and modify the original argument. If I'm right, how to incorporate CPT in the original argument?

I would appreciate it if you could provide some references.

I am writing a note about the Poincare group and I am trying to explain that argument that one-particle state transforms under irreducible unitary representations of the Poincare group. However, there are some ambiguities which confuse me.

  1. Is a composite particle transformation under an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group. For example, a proton consists of some quarks. It seems they can't be separated by just rotating or translating or boosting, therefore it does form an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group, even though it's not a fundamental particle.
  2. The irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group is characterised by mass and spin, which are two Casimir operators (momentum and PL). However, the electron and positron have the same mass and spin, but definitely different particles. So it seems we should somehow incorporate CPT transformation and modify the original argument. If I'm right, how to incorporate CPT in the original argument?

I would appreciate it if you could provide some references.

I am writing a note about the Poincare group and I am trying to explain that argument that one-particle state transforms under irreducible unitary representations of the Poincare group. However, there are some ambiguities which confuse me.

  1. Is a composite particle transformation under an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group? For example, a proton consists of some quarks. It seems they can't be separated by just rotating or translating or boosting, therefore it does form an irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group, even though it's not a fundamental particle.
  2. The irreducible unitary representation of the Poincare group is characterised by mass and spin, which are two Casimir operators (momentum and PL). However, the electron and positron have the same mass and spin, but definitely different particles. So it seems we should somehow incorporate CPT transformation and modify the original argument. If I'm right, how to incorporate CPT in the original argument?

I would appreciate it if you could provide some references.

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