Timeline for Do we need atomic theory to do thermodynamics?
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| Jun 24, 2022 at 7:37 | comment | added | Roger V. | @Poutnik indeed, and people built palaces and sailing ships long before Newton. It ultimately boils down to the difference between thermodynamics and statistical mechanics, a phenomenological and a microscopic theory - I won't pursue this discussion, since I explained it in the answers linked. | |
| Jun 24, 2022 at 7:33 | comment | added | Poutnik | @RogerVadim Well, classical motion of objects cannot be explained without Newtonian mechanics or the equivalent, but it can be measured and used for practical purposes without it. One could have e.g. an empirical table for the given object, how long it takes to fall from a particular height, without any notion of speed nor acceleration. | |
| Jun 24, 2022 at 7:31 | comment | added | Roger V. | @Poutnik it cannot be explained without using microscopic approach, but it can be measured and used for practical purposes, as did the Gibb's contemporaries throughout the industrial revolution in XIXth century (while the development of statistical mechanics took place in the beginning of the XXth). | |
| Jun 24, 2022 at 7:28 | answer | added | Roger V. | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jun 24, 2022 at 7:28 | comment | added | Poutnik | Well, e.g. temperature dependence of molar heat capacity of multiatomic gases (progressive involving of quantized rotational and later vibrational modes) cannot be addressed without molecular quantum approach. Or generally, any macroscopic behavior which is result of behaviour or properties of atoms or molecules. | |
| Jun 24, 2022 at 7:26 | comment | added | niels nielsen | @RogerVadim, why not post your comment as an answer? -NN | |
| Jun 24, 2022 at 6:27 | comment | added | Roger V. | Thermodynamics and statistical physics are two different ways of looking at the same thing. The former indeed does not require atomic theory, see, e.g., [here](physics.stackexchange.com/questions/714220/… and here | |
| Jun 24, 2022 at 6:24 | history | edited | Roger V. | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| S Jun 24, 2022 at 6:18 | history | asked | user273366 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |