Timeline for Are there real examples of strongly emergent systems?
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| Mar 14, 2022 at 6:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackPhysics/status/1503249589914288133 | ||
| Mar 13, 2022 at 20:18 | history | removed from network questions | Qmechanic♦ | ||
| Mar 13, 2022 at 17:21 | answer | added | nanoman | timeline score: 6 | |
| Mar 13, 2022 at 16:58 | history | became hot network question | |||
| Mar 13, 2022 at 13:58 | comment | added | Andrew | As far as anyone knows, all physical phenomena on "ordinary" length scales (really, from the size of a proton to the size of the observable Universe) can be explained in terms of the Standard Model plus general relativity, at least in principle. There are many cases where this link is not known explicitly (the vast majority of cases are like that in fact). But there are no cases where someone has observed a phenomenon that provably cannot be reduced to complicated interactions between fundamental particles. However, reducing things down to the Standard Model is rarely necessary or useful. | |
| Mar 13, 2022 at 10:51 | comment | added | anna v | "Strong emergence is the notion of emergence that is most common in philosophical discussions of emergence, and is the notion invoked by the British emergentists of the 1920s." consc.net/papers/emergence.pdf . Then this discussion is not on topic for the site, it is a philosophical question. certainly not a physics topic. I expect biological systems which emerge from the underlying atomic substructure would be strongly emergent . | |
| Mar 13, 2022 at 9:39 | comment | added | Arman Armenpress | @anna v No, this is a weak emergence. | |
| Mar 13, 2022 at 9:24 | comment | added | anna v | Thermodynamics emerges from statistical mechanics, its variables can be mathematically stated by averages in statistical mechanics, but are a completely new set. Would you call it strongly emergent? | |
| Mar 13, 2022 at 9:16 | answer | added | Andrew Steane | timeline score: 4 | |
| Mar 13, 2022 at 8:56 | history | asked | Arman Armenpress | CC BY-SA 4.0 |