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I have a real world question but I think it'll be clearer if I phrase it like a "homework" question so here goes*:

A physicist is trying to use a laser measuring device to determine the length of a piece of string with high accuracy. Their device has a nominal resolution of $\pm 10 \mu m$, which the user manual goes on to explain refers to the edges of a triangular probability distribution of where the true value the device reads might lie. That is the readings it outputs are in 10 micron increments and a value of $1,350 \mu m$ actually represents a triangular probability density function centred around $1,350$ with width $\pm 10$ (see diagram below) diagram showing triangular distribution

The physicist also notices though that the device is inconsistent; when they try to calibrate it by measuring a known length of string, there is some seemingly random noise in the readings. They decide that by taking a few samples of known lengths and seeing how far off the device is, they can find a probability distribution for the typical error in the device and subtract this from the readings to calibrate it.

The experimental setup is simple. For a known length calibration piece of $1000\mu m$, several measurements are taken. These might be as below:

Measurement No Value ($\mu m$)
1 1050
2 1010
3 980
4 990
5 1010
6 1000
7 1040
8 980

... so clearly there is some rounding owing to the instrument resolution, and some uncertainty from other factors. Using this information, the studentphysicist would like to model the error as a Normal distribution $Err\sim\cal N\left( {\mu,\sigma^2} \right)$ and calculate the most likely values for those parameters...

* The caveat for asking this in homework style is I may have missed out some important details required to give an answer, so if you need clarification or more details please ask

My approach

Ok so I have 2 approaches:

  1. At first I thought of fitting a normal distribution to the data. This is done by first plotting each measurement and its triangular resolution pdf. I then find $\mu$ (which is just $\bar{x}$, easy to calculate since the resolution error is symmetric). Finally I find the value of $\sigma$ which maximises the overlap between the measurements and the resultant distribution with integration - i.e. maximises the likelihood of observing those measurements weighted by their resolution distributions.
  2. However I remembered that samples from a normal population are t-distributed - appearing closer to the centre than expected and having a smaller standard deviation than the population would (making the first approach inaccurate). To solve this, I could try and fit a Student t-distribution to my samples, however I wasn't sure how many degrees of freedom to use since my measurements are pdfs, not individual values.

So I'm a bit stumped on how to fit to a t-distribution or what adjustments I need (given the small sample count and large relative resolution error, $\sigma$ I expect will be larger than just the sample standard deviation of the data itself).

I have a real world question but I think it'll be clearer if I phrase it like a "homework" question so here goes*:

A physicist is trying to use a laser measuring device to determine the length of a piece of string with high accuracy. Their device has a nominal resolution of $\pm 10 \mu m$, which the user manual goes on to explain refers to the edges of a triangular probability distribution of where the true value the device reads might lie. That is the readings it outputs are in 10 micron increments and a value of $1,350 \mu m$ actually represents a triangular probability density function centred around $1,350$ with width $\pm 10$ (see diagram below) diagram showing triangular distribution

The physicist also notices though that the device is inconsistent; when they try to calibrate it by measuring a known length of string, there is some seemingly random noise in the readings. They decide that by taking a few samples of known lengths and seeing how far off the device is, they can find a probability distribution for the typical error in the device and subtract this from the readings to calibrate it.

The experimental setup is simple. For a known length calibration piece of $1000\mu m$, several measurements are taken. These might be as below:

Measurement No Value ($\mu m$)
1 1050
2 1010
3 980
4 990
5 1010
6 1000
7 1040
8 980

... so clearly there is some rounding owing to the instrument resolution, and some uncertainty from other factors. Using this information, the student would like to model the error as a Normal distribution $Err\sim\cal N\left( {\mu,\sigma^2} \right)$ and calculate the most likely values for those parameters...

* The caveat for asking this in homework style is I may have missed out some important details required to give an answer, so if you need clarification or more details please ask

My approach

Ok so I have 2 approaches:

  1. At first I thought of fitting a normal distribution to the data. This is done by first plotting each measurement and its triangular resolution pdf. I then find $\mu$ (which is just $\bar{x}$, easy to calculate since the resolution error is symmetric). Finally I find the value of $\sigma$ which maximises the overlap between the measurements and the resultant distribution with integration - i.e. maximises the likelihood of observing those measurements weighted by their resolution distributions.
  2. However I remembered that samples from a normal population are t-distributed - appearing closer to the centre than expected and having a smaller standard deviation than the population would (making the first approach inaccurate). To solve this, I could try and fit a Student t-distribution to my samples, however I wasn't sure how many degrees of freedom to use since my measurements are pdfs, not individual values.

So I'm a bit stumped on how to fit to a t-distribution or what adjustments I need (given the small sample count and large relative resolution error, $\sigma$ I expect will be larger than just the sample standard deviation of the data itself).

I have a real world question but I think it'll be clearer if I phrase it like a "homework" question so here goes*:

A physicist is trying to use a laser measuring device to determine the length of a piece of string with high accuracy. Their device has a nominal resolution of $\pm 10 \mu m$, which the user manual goes on to explain refers to the edges of a triangular probability distribution of where the true value the device reads might lie. That is the readings it outputs are in 10 micron increments and a value of $1,350 \mu m$ actually represents a triangular probability density function centred around $1,350$ with width $\pm 10$ (see diagram below) diagram showing triangular distribution

The physicist also notices though that the device is inconsistent; when they try to calibrate it by measuring a known length of string, there is some seemingly random noise in the readings. They decide that by taking a few samples of known lengths and seeing how far off the device is, they can find a probability distribution for the typical error in the device and subtract this from the readings to calibrate it.

The experimental setup is simple. For a known length calibration piece of $1000\mu m$, several measurements are taken. These might be as below:

Measurement No Value ($\mu m$)
1 1050
2 1010
3 980
4 990
5 1010
6 1000
7 1040
8 980

... so clearly there is some rounding owing to the instrument resolution, and some uncertainty from other factors. Using this information, the physicist would like to model the error as a Normal distribution $Err\sim\cal N\left( {\mu,\sigma^2} \right)$ and calculate the most likely values for those parameters...

* The caveat for asking this in homework style is I may have missed out some important details required to give an answer, so if you need clarification or more details please ask

My approach

Ok so I have 2 approaches:

  1. At first I thought of fitting a normal distribution to the data. This is done by first plotting each measurement and its triangular resolution pdf. I then find $\mu$ (which is just $\bar{x}$, easy to calculate since the resolution error is symmetric). Finally I find the value of $\sigma$ which maximises the overlap between the measurements and the resultant distribution with integration - i.e. maximises the likelihood of observing those measurements weighted by their resolution distributions.
  2. However I remembered that samples from a normal population are t-distributed - appearing closer to the centre than expected and having a smaller standard deviation than the population would (making the first approach inaccurate). To solve this, I could try and fit a Student t-distribution to my samples, however I wasn't sure how many degrees of freedom to use since my measurements are pdfs, not individual values.

So I'm a bit stumped on how to fit to a t-distribution or what adjustments I need (given the small sample count and large relative resolution error, $\sigma$ I expect will be larger than just the sample standard deviation of the data itself).

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How to account for nominal resolution in calibration measurements?

I have a real world question but I think it'll be clearer if I phrase it like a "homework" question so here goes*:

A physicist is trying to use a laser measuring device to determine the length of a piece of string with high accuracy. Their device has a nominal resolution of $\pm 10 \mu m$, which the user manual goes on to explain refers to the edges of a triangular probability distribution of where the true value the device reads might lie. That is the readings it outputs are in 10 micron increments and a value of $1,350 \mu m$ actually represents a triangular probability density function centred around $1,350$ with width $\pm 10$ (see diagram below) diagram showing triangular distribution

The physicist also notices though that the device is inconsistent; when they try to calibrate it by measuring a known length of string, there is some seemingly random noise in the readings. They decide that by taking a few samples of known lengths and seeing how far off the device is, they can find a probability distribution for the typical error in the device and subtract this from the readings to calibrate it.

The experimental setup is simple. For a known length calibration piece of $1000\mu m$, several measurements are taken. These might be as below:

Measurement No Value ($\mu m$)
1 1050
2 1010
3 980
4 990
5 1010
6 1000
7 1040
8 980

... so clearly there is some rounding owing to the instrument resolution, and some uncertainty from other factors. Using this information, the student would like to model the error as a Normal distribution $Err\sim\cal N\left( {\mu,\sigma^2} \right)$ and calculate the most likely values for those parameters...

* The caveat for asking this in homework style is I may have missed out some important details required to give an answer, so if you need clarification or more details please ask

My approach

Ok so I have 2 approaches:

  1. At first I thought of fitting a normal distribution to the data. This is done by first plotting each measurement and its triangular resolution pdf. I then find $\mu$ (which is just $\bar{x}$, easy to calculate since the resolution error is symmetric). Finally I find the value of $\sigma$ which maximises the overlap between the measurements and the resultant distribution with integration - i.e. maximises the likelihood of observing those measurements weighted by their resolution distributions.
  2. However I remembered that samples from a normal population are t-distributed - appearing closer to the centre than expected and having a smaller standard deviation than the population would (making the first approach inaccurate). To solve this, I could try and fit a Student t-distribution to my samples, however I wasn't sure how many degrees of freedom to use since my measurements are pdfs, not individual values.

So I'm a bit stumped on how to fit to a t-distribution or what adjustments I need (given the small sample count and large relative resolution error, $\sigma$ I expect will be larger than just the sample standard deviation of the data itself).