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I've confirmed the experiment, using a McD_n_lds paper drinks cup and a beer can hollow plastic ball of about $5\mathrm{g}$, of about the same diameter as a ping pong ball (PPB):

Cup, ball and lemon

The observed effect depends largely on the cup being soft and permanently deformable (like an object made of blutack or playdough), so its collision with Earth is inelastic. A stiff, hard cup (made of steel e.g.) would not work the same way here. The inelastic collision of the ensemble causes kinetic energy of cup and water, post-collision, to be small.

The PPB bounces back quite high (from a quarter-filled cup) and the cup of water loses quite little water and doesn't really bounce at all. It's quite a sight to behold! A simple model can be set up a follows.

We can write with Conservation of Energy (the collision is clearly not elastic - as evidenced by the permanent deformation of the bottom of the cup):

$$(M+m)gH=mgh+W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$$

where:

  • $M$ is the mass of water plus cup and $m$ is the mass of the PPB
  • $H$ is the height from which the cup, water and PPB are dropped and $h$ is the rebound height of the PPB, after the ensemble hits the Earth
  • $W$ the work done on the cup's bottom
  • $\Delta Q$ heat energy dissipated by various non-conservative forces
  • $K_{M+m}$ the kinetic energy of water and cup, post-collision with Earth.

Trouble is, we don't know the value of $W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$. Direct observation suggests it is small, so we can write:

$$(M+m)gH\geq mgh$$

Or:

$$\boxed{h \leq H\Big(\frac{M+m}{m}\Big)}$$

If $M\gg m$ we can further approximate:

$$h \leq \frac{M}{m}$$$$h \leq \frac{M}{m}H$$

  

I wanted to confirm experimentally the effect of $M$ on $h$.

Using a nearly empty cup, one half-filled and one filled completely I can confirm increased $M$ increases $h$.

Some further experiments are planned.

I've confirmed the experiment, using a McD_n_lds paper drinks cup and a beer can hollow plastic ball of about $5\mathrm{g}$, of about the same diameter as a ping pong ball (PPB):

Cup, ball and lemon

The observed effect depends largely on the cup being soft and permanently deformable (like an object made of blutack or playdough), so its collision with Earth is inelastic. A stiff, hard cup (made of steel e.g.) would not work the same way here. The inelastic collision of the ensemble causes kinetic energy of cup and water, post-collision, to be small.

The PPB bounces back quite high (from a quarter-filled cup) and the cup of water loses quite little water and doesn't really bounce at all. It's quite a sight to behold! A simple model can be set up a follows.

We can write with Conservation of Energy (the collision is clearly not elastic - as evidenced by the permanent deformation of the bottom of the cup):

$$(M+m)gH=mgh+W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$$

where:

  • $M$ is the mass of water plus cup and $m$ is the mass of the PPB
  • $H$ is the height from which the cup, water and PPB are dropped and $h$ is the rebound height of the PPB, after the ensemble hits the Earth
  • $W$ the work done on the cup's bottom
  • $\Delta Q$ heat energy dissipated by various non-conservative forces
  • $K_{M+m}$ the kinetic energy of water and cup, post-collision with Earth.

Trouble is, we don't know the value of $W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$. Direct observation suggests it is small, so we can write:

$$(M+m)gH\geq mgh$$

Or:

$$\boxed{h \leq H\Big(\frac{M+m}{m}\Big)}$$

If $M\gg m$ we can further approximate:

$$h \leq \frac{M}{m}$$

 

I wanted to confirm experimentally the effect of $M$ on $h$.

Using a nearly empty cup, one half-filled and one filled completely I can confirm increased $M$ increases $h$.

Some further experiments are planned.

I've confirmed the experiment, using a McD_n_lds paper drinks cup and a beer can hollow plastic ball of about $5\mathrm{g}$, of about the same diameter as a ping pong ball (PPB):

Cup, ball and lemon

The observed effect depends largely on the cup being soft and permanently deformable (like an object made of blutack or playdough), so its collision with Earth is inelastic. A stiff, hard cup (made of steel e.g.) would not work the same way here. The inelastic collision of the ensemble causes kinetic energy of cup and water, post-collision, to be small.

The PPB bounces back quite high (from a quarter-filled cup) and the cup of water loses quite little water and doesn't really bounce at all. It's quite a sight to behold! A simple model can be set up a follows.

We can write with Conservation of Energy (the collision is clearly not elastic - as evidenced by the permanent deformation of the bottom of the cup):

$$(M+m)gH=mgh+W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$$

where:

  • $M$ is the mass of water plus cup and $m$ is the mass of the PPB
  • $H$ is the height from which the cup, water and PPB are dropped and $h$ is the rebound height of the PPB, after the ensemble hits the Earth
  • $W$ the work done on the cup's bottom
  • $\Delta Q$ heat energy dissipated by various non-conservative forces
  • $K_{M+m}$ the kinetic energy of water and cup, post-collision with Earth.

Trouble is, we don't know the value of $W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$. Direct observation suggests it is small, so we can write:

$$(M+m)gH\geq mgh$$

Or:

$$\boxed{h \leq H\Big(\frac{M+m}{m}\Big)}$$

If $M\gg m$ we can further approximate:

$$h \leq \frac{M}{m}H$$

 

I wanted to confirm experimentally the effect of $M$ on $h$.

Using a nearly empty cup, one half-filled and one filled completely I can confirm increased $M$ increases $h$.

Some further experiments are planned.

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I've confirmed the experiment, using a McD_n_lds paper drinks cup and a beer can hollow plastic ball of about $5\mathrm{g}$, of about the same diameter as a ping pong ball (PPB):

Cup, ball and lemon

The observed effect depends largely on the cup being soft and permanently deformable (like an object made of blutack or playdough), so its collision with Earth is inelastic. A stiff, hard cup (made of steel e.g.) would not work the same way here. The inelastic collision of the ensemble causes kinetic energy of cup and water, post-collision, to be small.

The PPB bounces back quite high (from a quarter-filled cup) and the cup of water loses quite little water and doesn't really bounce at all. It's quite a sight to behold! A simple model can be set up a follows.

We can write with Conservation of Energy (the collision is clearly not elastic - as evidenced by the permanent deformation of the bottom of the cup):

$$(M+m)gH=mgh+W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$$

where:

  • $M$ is the mass of water plus cup and $m$ is the mass of the PPB
  • $H$ is the height from which the cup, water and PPB are dropped and $h$ is the rebound height of the PPB, after the ensemble hits the Earth
  • $W$ the work done on the cup's bottom
  • $\Delta Q$ heat energy dissipated by various non-conservative forces
  • $K_{M+m}$ the kinetic energy of water and cup, post-collision with Earth.

Trouble is, we don't know the value of $W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$. Direct observation suggests it is small, so we can write:

$$(M+m)gH\geq mgh$$

Or:

$$\boxed{h \leq H\Big(\frac{M+m}{m}\Big)}$$

If $M\gg m$ we can further approximate:

$$h \leq \frac{M}{m}$$

I wanted to confirm experimentally the effect of $M$ on $h$.

Using a nearly empty cup, one half-filled and one filled completely I can confirm increased $M$ increases $h$.

Some further experiments are planned.

I've confirmed the experiment, using a McD_n_lds paper drinks cup and a beer can hollow plastic ball of about $5\mathrm{g}$, of about the same diameter as a ping pong ball (PPB):

Cup, ball and lemon

The observed effect depends largely on the cup being soft and permanently deformable (like an object made of blutack or playdough), so its collision with Earth is inelastic. A stiff, hard cup (made of steel e.g.) would not work the same way here.

The PPB bounces back quite high (from a quarter-filled cup) and the cup of water loses quite little water and doesn't really bounce at all. It's quite a sight to behold! A simple model can be set up a follows.

We can write with Conservation of Energy (the collision is clearly not elastic - as evidenced by the permanent deformation of the bottom of the cup):

$$(M+m)gH=mgh+W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$$

where:

  • $M$ is the mass of water plus cup and $m$ is the mass of the PPB
  • $H$ is the height from which the cup, water and PPB are dropped and $h$ is the rebound height of the PPB, after the ensemble hits the Earth
  • $W$ the work done on the cup's bottom
  • $\Delta Q$ heat energy dissipated by various non-conservative forces
  • $K_{M+m}$ the kinetic energy of water and cup, post-collision with Earth.

Trouble is, we don't know the value of $W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$. Direct observation suggests it is small, so we can write:

$$(M+m)gH\geq mgh$$

Or:

$$\boxed{h \leq H\Big(\frac{M+m}{m}\Big)}$$

If $M\gg m$ we can further approximate:

$$h \leq \frac{M}{m}$$

I wanted to confirm experimentally the effect of $M$ on $h$.

Using a nearly empty cup, one half-filled and one filled completely I can confirm increased $M$ increases $h$.

I've confirmed the experiment, using a McD_n_lds paper drinks cup and a beer can hollow plastic ball of about $5\mathrm{g}$, of about the same diameter as a ping pong ball (PPB):

Cup, ball and lemon

The observed effect depends largely on the cup being soft and permanently deformable (like an object made of blutack or playdough), so its collision with Earth is inelastic. A stiff, hard cup (made of steel e.g.) would not work the same way here. The inelastic collision of the ensemble causes kinetic energy of cup and water, post-collision, to be small.

The PPB bounces back quite high (from a quarter-filled cup) and the cup of water loses quite little water and doesn't really bounce at all. It's quite a sight to behold! A simple model can be set up a follows.

We can write with Conservation of Energy (the collision is clearly not elastic - as evidenced by the permanent deformation of the bottom of the cup):

$$(M+m)gH=mgh+W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$$

where:

  • $M$ is the mass of water plus cup and $m$ is the mass of the PPB
  • $H$ is the height from which the cup, water and PPB are dropped and $h$ is the rebound height of the PPB, after the ensemble hits the Earth
  • $W$ the work done on the cup's bottom
  • $\Delta Q$ heat energy dissipated by various non-conservative forces
  • $K_{M+m}$ the kinetic energy of water and cup, post-collision with Earth.

Trouble is, we don't know the value of $W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$. Direct observation suggests it is small, so we can write:

$$(M+m)gH\geq mgh$$

Or:

$$\boxed{h \leq H\Big(\frac{M+m}{m}\Big)}$$

If $M\gg m$ we can further approximate:

$$h \leq \frac{M}{m}$$

I wanted to confirm experimentally the effect of $M$ on $h$.

Using a nearly empty cup, one half-filled and one filled completely I can confirm increased $M$ increases $h$.

Some further experiments are planned.

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I've confirmed the experiment, using a McD_n_lds paper drinks cup and a beer can hollow plastic ball of about $5\mathrm{g}$, of about the same diameter as a ping pong ball (PPB):

Cup, ball and lemon

The observed effect depends largely on the cup being soft and permanently deformable (like an object made of blutack or playdough), so its collision with Earth is inelastic. A stiff, hard cup (made of steel e.g.) would not work the same way here.

The PPB bounces back quite high (from a quarter-filled cup) and the cup of water loses quite little water and doesn't really bounce at all. It's quite a sight to behold! A simple model can be set up a follows.

We can write with Conservation of Energy (the collision is clearly not elastic - as evidenced by the permanent deformation of the bottom of the cup):

$$(M+m)gH=mgh+W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$$

where:

  • $M$ is the mass of water plus cup and $m$ is the mass of the PPB
  • $H$ is the height from which the cup, water and PPB are dropped and $h$ is the rebound height of the PPB, after the ensemble hits the Earth
  • $W$ the work done on the cup's bottom
  • $\Delta Q$ heat energy dissipated by various non-conservative forces
  • $K_{M+m}$ the kinetic energy of water and cup, post-collision with Earth.

Trouble is, we don't know the value of $W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$. Direct observation suggests it is small, so we can write:

$$(M+m)gH\geq mgh$$

Or:

$$\boxed{h \leq H\Big(\frac{M+m}{m}\Big)}$$

If $M\gg m$ we can further approximate:

$$h \geq \frac{M}{m}$$$$h \leq \frac{M}{m}$$

I wanted to confirm experimentally the effect of $M$ on $h$.

Using a nearly empty cup, one half-filled and one filled completely I can confirm increased $M$ increases $h$.

I've confirmed the experiment, using a McD_n_lds paper drinks cup and a beer can hollow plastic ball of about $5\mathrm{g}$, of about the same diameter as a ping pong ball (PPB):

Cup, ball and lemon

The observed effect depends largely on the cup being soft and permanently deformable (like an object made of blutack or playdough), so its collision with Earth is inelastic. A stiff, hard cup (made of steel e.g.) would not work the same way here.

The PPB bounces back quite high (from a quarter-filled cup) and the cup of water loses quite little water and doesn't really bounce at all. It's quite a sight to behold! A simple model can be set up a follows.

We can write with Conservation of Energy (the collision is clearly not elastic - as evidenced by the permanent deformation of the bottom of the cup):

$$(M+m)gH=mgh+W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$$

where:

  • $M$ is the mass of water plus cup and $m$ is the mass of the PPB
  • $H$ is the height from which the cup, water and PPB are dropped and $h$ is the rebound height of the PPB, after the ensemble hits the Earth
  • $W$ the work done on the cup's bottom
  • $\Delta Q$ heat energy dissipated by various non-conservative forces
  • $K_{M+m}$ the kinetic energy of water and cup, post-collision with Earth.

Trouble is, we don't know the value of $W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$. Direct observation suggests it is small, so we can write:

$$(M+m)gH\geq mgh$$

Or:

$$\boxed{h \leq H\Big(\frac{M+m}{m}\Big)}$$

If $M\gg m$ we can further approximate:

$$h \geq \frac{M}{m}$$

I wanted to confirm experimentally the effect of $M$ on $h$.

Using a nearly empty cup, one half-filled and one filled completely I can confirm increased $M$ increases $h$.

I've confirmed the experiment, using a McD_n_lds paper drinks cup and a beer can hollow plastic ball of about $5\mathrm{g}$, of about the same diameter as a ping pong ball (PPB):

Cup, ball and lemon

The observed effect depends largely on the cup being soft and permanently deformable (like an object made of blutack or playdough), so its collision with Earth is inelastic. A stiff, hard cup (made of steel e.g.) would not work the same way here.

The PPB bounces back quite high (from a quarter-filled cup) and the cup of water loses quite little water and doesn't really bounce at all. It's quite a sight to behold! A simple model can be set up a follows.

We can write with Conservation of Energy (the collision is clearly not elastic - as evidenced by the permanent deformation of the bottom of the cup):

$$(M+m)gH=mgh+W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$$

where:

  • $M$ is the mass of water plus cup and $m$ is the mass of the PPB
  • $H$ is the height from which the cup, water and PPB are dropped and $h$ is the rebound height of the PPB, after the ensemble hits the Earth
  • $W$ the work done on the cup's bottom
  • $\Delta Q$ heat energy dissipated by various non-conservative forces
  • $K_{M+m}$ the kinetic energy of water and cup, post-collision with Earth.

Trouble is, we don't know the value of $W+\Delta Q+K_{M+m}$. Direct observation suggests it is small, so we can write:

$$(M+m)gH\geq mgh$$

Or:

$$\boxed{h \leq H\Big(\frac{M+m}{m}\Big)}$$

If $M\gg m$ we can further approximate:

$$h \leq \frac{M}{m}$$

I wanted to confirm experimentally the effect of $M$ on $h$.

Using a nearly empty cup, one half-filled and one filled completely I can confirm increased $M$ increases $h$.

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