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First of all -- it wouldn't be called "the Large Hadron Collider", right?
Looks like one would rather call it something like "Large Electron-Positron Collider".
In that case one definitely would need another abbreviation for it. Something like "LEP" instead of "LHC"...

Now, guess what was there in the same tunnel before?


Edit: since my shenanigan got popular, I'll elaborate.

  • Yes, they'rethey actually was colliding electrons and positrons, not electrons-electrons. Mainly because of the richer physics of such collisions. (But for my theoristish point of view: positron is just an electron going back in time.)

  • Why the same tunnel? Perhaps surprisingly, tunnel is taking a substantial part of the cost of an accelerator. Digging a new one for LHC would have definitely burnt a large hole in CERN's pocket.

  • Given a fixed circular tunnel (it's radius) you actually have a bound on energy you can have for your particles. Which is coming formDue to synchrotron radiation -- see @emarti answer for more.

  • 27 kilometers seems to be a reasonable limit on the size of a circular tunnel. (Actually people think about 233 km, but that sounds crazy to me.) So the next accelerator most probably will be linear and it will be electron-positron.


P.S. Have you heard of a Photon Collider?

First of all -- it wouldn't be called "the Large Hadron Collider", right?
Looks like one would rather call it something like "Large Electron-Positron Collider".
In that case one definitely would need another abbreviation for it. Something like "LEP" instead of "LHC"...

Now, guess what was there in the same tunnel before?


Edit: since my shenanigan got popular, I'll elaborate.

  • Yes, they're actually was colliding electrons and positrons, not electrons-electrons. Mainly because of the richer physics of such collisions. (But for my theoristish point of view: positron is just an electron going back in time.)

  • Why the same tunnel? Perhaps surprisingly, tunnel is taking a substantial part of the cost of an accelerator. Digging a new one for LHC would have definitely burnt a large hole in CERN's pocket.

  • Given a fixed circular tunnel (it's radius) you actually have a bound on energy you can have for your particles. Which is coming form synchrotron radiation -- see @emarti answer for more.

  • 27 kilometers seems to be a reasonable limit on the size of a circular tunnel. (Actually people think about 233 km, but that sounds crazy to me.) So the next accelerator most probably will be linear and it will be electron-positron.


P.S. Have you heard of a Photon Collider?

First of all -- it wouldn't be called "the Large Hadron Collider", right?
Looks like one would rather call it something like "Large Electron-Positron Collider".
In that case one definitely would need another abbreviation for it. Something like "LEP" instead of "LHC"...

Now, guess what was there in the same tunnel before?


Edit: since my shenanigan got popular, I'll elaborate.

  • Yes, they actually was colliding electrons and positrons, not electrons-electrons. Mainly because of the richer physics of such collisions. (But for my theoristish point of view: positron is just an electron going back in time.)

  • Why the same tunnel? Perhaps surprisingly, tunnel is taking a substantial part of the cost of an accelerator. Digging a new one for LHC would have definitely burnt a large hole in CERN's pocket.

  • Given a fixed circular tunnel (it's radius) you actually have a bound on energy you can have for your particles. Due to synchrotron radiation -- see @emarti answer for more.

  • 27 kilometers seems to be a reasonable limit on the size of a circular tunnel. (Actually people think about 233 km, but that sounds crazy to me.) So the next accelerator most probably will be linear and it will be electron-positron.


P.S. Have you heard of a Photon Collider?

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First of all -- it wouldn't be called "the Large Hadron Collider", right?
Looks like one would rather call it something like "Large Electron-Positron Collider".
In that case one definitely would need another abbreviation for it. Something like "LEP" instead of "LHC"...

Now, guess what was there in the same tunnel before?


Edit: since my shenanigan got popular, I'll elaborate.

  • Yes, they're actually was colliding electrons and positrons, not electrons-electrons. Mainly because of the richer physics of such collisions. (But for my theoristish point of view: positron is just an electron going back in time.)

  • Why the same tunnel? Perhaps surprisingly, tunnel is taking a substantial part of the cost of an accelerator. Digging a new one for LHC would have definitely burnt a large hole in CERN's pocket.

  • Given a fixed circular tunnel (it's radius) you actually have a bound on energy you can have for your particles. Which is coming form synchrotron radiation -- see @emarti answer for more.

  • 27 kilometers seems to be a reasonable limit on the size of a circular tunnel. (Actually people think about 233 km, but that sounds crazy to me.) So the next accelerator most probably will be linear and it will be electron-positron.


P.S. Have you heard of a Photon Collider?

First of all -- it wouldn't be called "the Large Hadron Collider", right?
Looks like one would rather call it something like "Large Electron-Positron Collider".
In that case one definitely would need another abbreviation for it. Something like "LEP" instead of "LHC"...

Now, guess what was there in the same tunnel before?

First of all -- it wouldn't be called "the Large Hadron Collider", right?
Looks like one would rather call it something like "Large Electron-Positron Collider".
In that case one definitely would need another abbreviation for it. Something like "LEP" instead of "LHC"...

Now, guess what was there in the same tunnel before?


Edit: since my shenanigan got popular, I'll elaborate.

  • Yes, they're actually was colliding electrons and positrons, not electrons-electrons. Mainly because of the richer physics of such collisions. (But for my theoristish point of view: positron is just an electron going back in time.)

  • Why the same tunnel? Perhaps surprisingly, tunnel is taking a substantial part of the cost of an accelerator. Digging a new one for LHC would have definitely burnt a large hole in CERN's pocket.

  • Given a fixed circular tunnel (it's radius) you actually have a bound on energy you can have for your particles. Which is coming form synchrotron radiation -- see @emarti answer for more.

  • 27 kilometers seems to be a reasonable limit on the size of a circular tunnel. (Actually people think about 233 km, but that sounds crazy to me.) So the next accelerator most probably will be linear and it will be electron-positron.


P.S. Have you heard of a Photon Collider?

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First of all -- it wouldn't be called "the Large Hadron Collider", right?
Looks like one would rather call it something like "Large Electron-Positron Collider".
In that case one definitely would need another abbreviation for it. Something like "LEP" instead of "LHC"...

Now, guess what was there in the same tunnel before?