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Imagine we have an induction coil which is strong enough to heat a sheet of metal. We can put a sheet of ferromagnetic metal close to the coil at distance $h_1$, and it gets heated to temperature $t_1$, or at distance $h_2 > h_1$ so that the sheet gets heated to temperature $t_2 < t_1$.

I want to know what happens if we have two identical sheets at once, one at distance $h_1$ and one at distance $h_2$, on the same side of the coil, with some insulator between the sheets (the insulator does not conduct electricity, is not ferromagnetic, and does not conduct heat well). Will the sheet farther away from the coil heat up at all, or will the closer sheet shield it from the electromagnetic field in some way? What will the temperatures $t_1'$ and $t_2'$ of the sheets in this experiment be, higher, lower or the same as $t_1$ and $t_2$?

Does the answer to the above change if we have a small conducting connection between the two sheets of metal, e.g. a wire which touches both the close and the far one, but most of their surface is still separated?

The application for this question: I am thinking of getting a cast iron waffle iron to use on my induction stove, and I am trying to imagine how this will function. By the way, I know that I will get some heat conducted through the waffle itself, and I will probably turn it anyway so both plates get hot, but please ignore these effects when answering the question and tell me the effects of induction only.

Imagine we have an induction coil which is strong enough to heat a sheet of metal. We can put a sheet of ferromagnetic metal close to the coil at distance $h_1$, and it gets heated to temperature $t_1$, or at distance $h_2 > h_1$ so that the sheet gets heated to temperature $t_2 < t_1$.

I want to know what happens if we have two identical sheets at once, one at distance $h_1$ and one at distance $h_2$, on the same side of the coil, with some insulator between the sheets (the insulator does not conduct electricity, is not ferromagnetic, and does not conduct heat well). Will the sheet farther away from the coil heat up at all, or will the closer sheet shield it from the electromagnetic field in some way? What will the temperatures $t_1'$ and $t_2'$ of the sheets in this experiment be, higher, lower or the same as $t_1$ and $t_2$?

The application for this question: I am thinking of getting a cast iron waffle iron to use on my induction stove, and I am trying to imagine how this will function. By the way, I know that I will get some heat conducted through the waffle itself, and I will probably turn it anyway so both plates get hot, but please ignore these effects when answering the question and tell me the effects of induction only.

Imagine we have an induction coil which is strong enough to heat a sheet of metal. We can put a sheet of ferromagnetic metal close to the coil at distance $h_1$, and it gets heated to temperature $t_1$, or at distance $h_2 > h_1$ so that the sheet gets heated to temperature $t_2 < t_1$.

I want to know what happens if we have two identical sheets at once, one at distance $h_1$ and one at distance $h_2$, on the same side of the coil, with some insulator between the sheets (the insulator does not conduct electricity, is not ferromagnetic, and does not conduct heat well). Will the sheet farther away from the coil heat up at all, or will the closer sheet shield it from the electromagnetic field in some way? What will the temperatures $t_1'$ and $t_2'$ of the sheets in this experiment be, higher, lower or the same as $t_1$ and $t_2$?

Does the answer to the above change if we have a small conducting connection between the two sheets of metal, e.g. a wire which touches both the close and the far one, but most of their surface is still separated?

The application for this question: I am thinking of getting a cast iron waffle iron to use on my induction stove, and I am trying to imagine how this will function. By the way, I know that I will get some heat conducted through the waffle itself, and I will probably turn it anyway so both plates get hot, but please ignore these effects when answering the question and tell me the effects of induction only.

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Imagine we have an induction coil which is strong enough to heat a sheet of metal. We can put a sheet of ferromagnetic metal close to the coil at distance h1$h_1$, and it gets heated to temperature t1$t_1$, or at distance h2 > h1$h_2 > h_1$ so that the sheet gets heated to temperature t2 < t1$t_2 < t_1$.

I want to know what happens if we have two identical sheets at once, one at distance h1$h_1$ and one at distance h2$h_2$, on the same side of the coil, with some insulator between the sheets (the insulator does not conduct electricity, is not ferromagnetic, and does not conduct heat well). Will the sheet farther away from the coil heat up at all, or will the closer sheet shield it from the electromagnetic field in some way? What will the temperatures t1'$t_1'$ and t2'$t_2'$ of the sheets in this experiment be, higher, lower or the same as t1$t_1$ and t2$t_2$?

The application for this question: I am thinking of getting a cast iron waffle iron to use on my induction stove, and I am trying to imagine how this will function. By the way, I know that I will get some heat conducted through the waffle itself, and I will probably turn it anyway so both plates get hot, but please ignore these effects when answering the question and tell me the effects of induction only.

Imagine we have an induction coil which is strong enough to heat a sheet of metal. We can put a sheet of ferromagnetic metal close to the coil at distance h1, and it gets heated to temperature t1, or at distance h2 > h1 so that the sheet gets heated to temperature t2 < t1.

I want to know what happens if we have two identical sheets at once, one at distance h1 and one at distance h2, on the same side of the coil, with some insulator between the sheets (the insulator does not conduct electricity, is not ferromagnetic, and does not conduct heat well). Will the sheet farther away from the coil heat up at all, or will the closer sheet shield it from the electromagnetic field in some way? What will the temperatures t1' and t2' of the sheets in this experiment be, higher, lower or the same as t1 and t2?

The application for this question: I am thinking of getting a cast iron waffle iron to use on my induction stove, and I am trying to imagine how this will function. By the way, I know that I will get some heat conducted through the waffle itself, and I will probably turn it anyway so both plates get hot, but please ignore these effects when answering the question and tell me the effects of induction only.

Imagine we have an induction coil which is strong enough to heat a sheet of metal. We can put a sheet of ferromagnetic metal close to the coil at distance $h_1$, and it gets heated to temperature $t_1$, or at distance $h_2 > h_1$ so that the sheet gets heated to temperature $t_2 < t_1$.

I want to know what happens if we have two identical sheets at once, one at distance $h_1$ and one at distance $h_2$, on the same side of the coil, with some insulator between the sheets (the insulator does not conduct electricity, is not ferromagnetic, and does not conduct heat well). Will the sheet farther away from the coil heat up at all, or will the closer sheet shield it from the electromagnetic field in some way? What will the temperatures $t_1'$ and $t_2'$ of the sheets in this experiment be, higher, lower or the same as $t_1$ and $t_2$?

The application for this question: I am thinking of getting a cast iron waffle iron to use on my induction stove, and I am trying to imagine how this will function. By the way, I know that I will get some heat conducted through the waffle itself, and I will probably turn it anyway so both plates get hot, but please ignore these effects when answering the question and tell me the effects of induction only.

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Can an induction coil heat two layers of metal?

Imagine we have an induction coil which is strong enough to heat a sheet of metal. We can put a sheet of ferromagnetic metal close to the coil at distance h1, and it gets heated to temperature t1, or at distance h2 > h1 so that the sheet gets heated to temperature t2 < t1.

I want to know what happens if we have two identical sheets at once, one at distance h1 and one at distance h2, on the same side of the coil, with some insulator between the sheets (the insulator does not conduct electricity, is not ferromagnetic, and does not conduct heat well). Will the sheet farther away from the coil heat up at all, or will the closer sheet shield it from the electromagnetic field in some way? What will the temperatures t1' and t2' of the sheets in this experiment be, higher, lower or the same as t1 and t2?

The application for this question: I am thinking of getting a cast iron waffle iron to use on my induction stove, and I am trying to imagine how this will function. By the way, I know that I will get some heat conducted through the waffle itself, and I will probably turn it anyway so both plates get hot, but please ignore these effects when answering the question and tell me the effects of induction only.