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In general relativity the local speed of light is a constant and and has the usual value $c$, but the speed of light that we measure measure from here for a part of space over there (called the coordinate coordinate speed) may differ from the accepted value.

This is one way to structure arguments about gravitational red red/blue shift and the curvature of light paths relative coordinate coordinate systems fixed to a particular observer. It is a common way way of explaining the Shapiro delay.

Indeed in that kind of context this point of view is successful enough enough that it is tempting to take it as definitive. To say

Not being a relativist in any serious way myself (my sole course on on general relativity is more than twenty years in the past!) I've I've been wondering about how that notion gets along with the equivalence equivalence principle.

Two (identical) space craft are commanded from their geometric centers and also feature a pair of transverse light clocks a height $L/2$ "above"above" and "below" the cockpit. While accelerating the "high" clock should accumulate more time than the "low" clock just as they would if the ship was grounded upright on Earth.

Now we imaging these two craft hurtling toward each other in deep space while thrusting they both employ a stead thrust to reduce their closing velocity in such a way that they they arrive at relative rest just as their cockpits come alongside one one other.

The At this instant, the two cockpitsoccupants of the two craft momentarily share a single co-moving frame of reference reference.

Naive "paradox"

However, occupants of each craft will report a different expectation on thefor the relative timing of the clocks; this has been true all along, but now the high clock inclocks. In particular occupants of craft $A$ is beside the low clock in craftsee clocks $B$$A_\text{high}$ and vice versa so the comparison is between$B_\text{low}$ as above them and therefore running fast while clocks $A_\text{low}$ and $B_\text{high}$ are below them and therefore running slow. Occupants of craft $B$ of course have the same two regions in spaceopposite expectations.1

If we subscribe toInertial view

Of course the pointoccupants of viewboth crafts are in non-inertial frames, an observer floating freely nearby will report that the variation ofboth ships exist in a flat space-time for which the coordinate coordinate speed of light has some absolute meaning then this appearsis everywhere equal to represent a paradox, while viewing differences in the coordinate local speed of light as having only relative consequence would seem to have no problem with the described scenario.

Do scenarios likeWhat's the point

In my naive view this provide a reason to prefer one ontology of thescenario demolishes claims that the coordinate speed of light to another? Orhas some absolute significance because

  • It arranges a paradox if we believe in absolute significance of the coordinate speed.

  • Viewing differences in the coordinate speed of light as having only relative consequence would seem to have no problem with the described scenario.

Is this a sustainable conclusion or is there something that that I am missing (that is: is there a correctcorrection I'm failing to make that that prevent the "paradox" from coming up in the first place thereby leaving the ontological question unresolved)?

In general relativity the local speed of light is a constant and has the usual value $c$, but the speed of light that we measure from here for a part of space over there (called the coordinate speed) may differ from the accepted value.

This is one way to structure arguments about gravitational red/blue shift and the curvature of light paths relative coordinate systems fixed to a particular observer. It is a common way of explaining the Shapiro delay.

Indeed in that kind of context this point of view is successful enough that it is tempting to take it as definitive. To say

Not being a relativist in any serious way myself (my sole course on general relativity is more than twenty years in the past!) I've been wondering about how that notion gets along with the equivalence principle.

Two (identical) space craft are commanded from their geometric centers and also feature a pair of transverse light clocks a height $L/2$ "above and "below" the cockpit. While accelerating the "high" clock should accumulate more time than the "low" clock just as they would if the ship was grounded upright on Earth.

Now we imaging these two craft hurtling toward each other while thrusting to reduce their closing velocity in such a way that they arrive at relative rest just as their cockpits come alongside one other.

The two cockpits momentarily share a single co-moving frame of reference. However, each will report a different expectation on the relative timing of the clocks; this has been true all along, but now the high clock in craft $A$ is beside the low clock in craft $B$ and vice versa so the comparison is between the same two regions in space.1

If we subscribe to the point of view that the variation of the coordinate speed of light has some absolute meaning then this appears to represent a paradox, while viewing differences in the coordinate speed of light as having only relative consequence would seem to have no problem with the described scenario.

Do scenarios like this provide a reason to prefer one ontology of the coordinate speed of light to another? Or is there something that I am missing (that is: is there a correct I'm failing to make that prevent the "paradox" from coming up in the first place)?

In general relativity the local speed of light is a constant and has the usual value $c$, but the speed of light that we measure from here for a part of space over there (called the coordinate speed) may differ from the accepted value.

This is one way to structure arguments about gravitational red/blue shift and the curvature of light paths relative coordinate systems fixed to a particular observer. It is a common way of explaining the Shapiro delay.

Indeed in that kind of context this point of view is successful enough that it is tempting to take it as definitive. To say

Not being a relativist in any serious way myself (my sole course on general relativity is more than twenty years in the past!) I've been wondering about how that notion gets along with the equivalence principle.

Two (identical) space craft are commanded from their geometric centers and also feature a pair of transverse light clocks a height $L/2$ "above" and "below" the cockpit. While accelerating the "high" clock should accumulate more time than the "low" clock just as they would if the ship was grounded upright on Earth.

Now we imaging these two craft hurtling toward each other in deep space while they both employ a stead thrust to reduce their closing velocity in such a way that they arrive at relative rest just as their cockpits come alongside one other. At this instant, the two occupants of the two craft momentarily share a single co-moving frame of reference.

Naive "paradox"

However, occupants of each craft will report a different expectation for the relative timing of the clocks. In particular occupants of craft $A$ see clocks $A_\text{high}$ and $B_\text{low}$ as above them and therefore running fast while clocks $A_\text{low}$ and $B_\text{high}$ are below them and therefore running slow. Occupants of craft $B$ of course have the opposite expectations.

Inertial view

Of course the occupants of both crafts are in non-inertial frames, an observer floating freely nearby will report that both ships exist in a flat space-time for which the coordinate speed of light is everywhere equal to the local speed of light.

What's the point

In my naive view this scenario demolishes claims that the coordinate speed has some absolute significance because

  • It arranges a paradox if we believe in absolute significance of the coordinate speed.

  • Viewing differences in the coordinate speed of light as having only relative consequence would seem to have no problem with the described scenario.

Is this a sustainable conclusion or is there something that I am missing (that is: is there a correction I'm failing to make that prevent the "paradox" from coming up in the first place thereby leaving the ontological question unresolved)?

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Equivalence principle and the meaning of the coordinate speed of light

Short version: Does the equivalence principle give us a means to tell if variations in the coordinate speed of light have absolute or only relative significance?


Background

In general relativity the local speed of light is a constant and has the usual value $c$, but the speed of light that we measure from here for a part of space over there (called the coordinate speed) may differ from the accepted value.

This is one way to structure arguments about gravitational red/blue shift and the curvature of light paths relative coordinate systems fixed to a particular observer. It is a common way of explaining the Shapiro delay.

Indeed in that kind of context this point of view is successful enough that it is tempting to take it as definitive. To say

"the speed of light really does vary from place to place and the constancy of the local speed is an artifact of using the motion of light to define our measure of time."

How does the equivalence principle come into play?

Not being a relativist in any serious way myself (my sole course on general relativity is more than twenty years in the past!) I've been wondering about how that notion gets along with the equivalence principle.

I try to isolate the question with the following thought experiment.

Two (identical) space craft are commanded from their geometric centers and also feature a pair of transverse light clocks a height $L/2$ "above and "below" the cockpit. While accelerating the "high" clock should accumulate more time than the "low" clock just as they would if the ship was grounded upright on Earth.

Now we imaging these two craft hurtling toward each other while thrusting to reduce their closing velocity in such a way that they arrive at relative rest just as their cockpits come alongside one other.

The two cockpits momentarily share a single co-moving frame of reference. However, each will report a different expectation on the relative timing of the clocks; this has been true all along, but now the high clock in craft $A$ is beside the low clock in craft $B$ and vice versa so the comparison is between the same two regions in space.1

If we subscribe to the point of view that the variation of the coordinate speed of light has some absolute meaning then this appears to represent a paradox, while viewing differences in the coordinate speed of light as having only relative consequence would seem to have no problem with the described scenario.

Do scenarios like this provide a reason to prefer one ontology of the coordinate speed of light to another? Or is there something that I am missing (that is: is there a correct I'm failing to make that prevent the "paradox" from coming up in the first place)?


Neither of

address the question of what significance should be understood for variations in the coordinate speed of light.


1 If the clocks are on gantries that stick out from the sides of the ships they could even be built so that the make their measurement through the same region of space as their partner.