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TL;DR: It is a coincidence.

  1. Firstly, the power laws don't match for $n\neq 3$ spatial dimensions:
  1. Secondly, even if we restrict to $n=3$ spatial dimensions, the solutions are different:
  • On one hand, Bertrand's theorem only works for a $1/r^2$ force law and Hooke's law separately but not for non-trivial linear combinations thereof.

  • On the other hand, the converse Newton's shell theorem also works for linear combinations thereof.

  1. Thirdly, the known proofs of Bertrand's theorem are longer and the requirement of closed orbits leads to a rationality condition that, which has no counterpart in the converse Newton's shell theorem.

TL;DR: It is a coincidence.

  1. Firstly, the power laws don't match for $n\neq 3$ spatial dimensions:
  1. Secondly, even if we restrict to $n=3$ spatial dimensions, the solutions are different:
  • On one hand, Bertrand's theorem only works for a $1/r^2$ force law and Hooke's law but not for non-trivial linear combinations thereof.

  • On the other hand, the converse Newton's shell theorem also works for linear combinations thereof.

  1. Thirdly, the known proofs of Bertrand's theorem are longer and the requirement of closed orbits leads to a rationality condition that has no counterpart in the converse Newton's shell theorem.

TL;DR: It is a coincidence.

  1. Firstly, the power laws don't match for $n\neq 3$ spatial dimensions:
  1. Secondly, even if we restrict to $n=3$ spatial dimensions, the solutions are different:
  • On one hand, Bertrand's theorem only works for a $1/r^2$ force law and Hooke's law separately but not for non-trivial linear combinations thereof.

  • On the other hand, the converse Newton's shell theorem also works for linear combinations thereof.

  1. Thirdly, the known proofs of Bertrand's theorem are longer and the requirement of closed orbits leads to a rationality condition, which has no counterpart in the converse Newton's shell theorem.
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TL;DR: It seems to beis a coincidence.

  1. Firstly, the solutions are differentpower laws don't match for $n\neq 3$ spatial dimensions:
  1. Secondly, even if we restrict to $n=3$ spatial dimensions, the solutions are different:
  • On one hand, Bertrand's theorem only works for a $1/r^2$ force law and Hooke's law but not for non-trivial linear combinations thereof.

  • On the other hand, the converse Newton's shell theorem also works for linear combinations thereof.

  1. Secondly, the known proofs of Bertrand's theorem are longer and the requirement of closed orbits leads to a rationality condition that appears to have no counterpart in the converse Newton's shell theorem.
  1. Thirdly, the known proofs of Bertrand's theorem are longer and the requirement of closed orbits leads to a rationality condition that has no counterpart in the converse Newton's shell theorem.

It seems to be a coincidence.

  1. Firstly, the solutions are different:
  1. Secondly, the known proofs of Bertrand's theorem are longer and the requirement of closed orbits leads to a rationality condition that appears to have no counterpart in the converse Newton's shell theorem.

TL;DR: It is a coincidence.

  1. Firstly, the power laws don't match for $n\neq 3$ spatial dimensions:
  1. Secondly, even if we restrict to $n=3$ spatial dimensions, the solutions are different:
  • On one hand, Bertrand's theorem only works for a $1/r^2$ force law and Hooke's law but not for non-trivial linear combinations thereof.

  • On the other hand, the converse Newton's shell theorem also works for linear combinations thereof.

  1. Thirdly, the known proofs of Bertrand's theorem are longer and the requirement of closed orbits leads to a rationality condition that has no counterpart in the converse Newton's shell theorem.
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It seems to be a coincidence.

  1. Firstly, the solutions are different:
  • On one hand, Bertrand's theorem only works for a $1/r^2$ force law and Hooke's law but not for non-trivial linear combinations thereof.

    On one hand, Bertrand's theorem only works for a $1/r^2$ force law and Hooke's law but not for non-trivial linear combinations thereof.

  • On the other hand, the converse Newton's shell theorem also works for a constant force law (besides the two power laws already mentioned above), and moreover it works for any linear combinations of all these three power laws.

    On the other hand, the converse Newton's shell theorem also works for linear combinations thereof.

  1. Secondly, the known proofs of Bertrand's theorem are longer and the requirement of closed orbits leads to a rationality condition that appears to have no counterpart in the converse Newton's shell theorem.

It seems to be a coincidence.

  1. Firstly, the solutions are different:
  • On one hand, Bertrand's theorem only works for a $1/r^2$ force law and Hooke's law but not for non-trivial linear combinations thereof.
  • On the other hand, the converse Newton's shell theorem also works for a constant force law (besides the two power laws already mentioned above), and moreover it works for any linear combinations of all these three power laws.
  1. Secondly, the known proofs of Bertrand's theorem are longer and the requirement of closed orbits leads to a rationality condition that appears to have no counterpart in the converse Newton's shell theorem.

It seems to be a coincidence.

  1. Firstly, the solutions are different:
  1. Secondly, the known proofs of Bertrand's theorem are longer and the requirement of closed orbits leads to a rationality condition that appears to have no counterpart in the converse Newton's shell theorem.
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