Timeline for Which one is more fundamental? "Principle of increase of entropy" or "Second law of thermodynamics"?
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| Nov 25, 2016 at 18:53 | comment | added | Reid Hayes | it is interesting to note that historically quantum mechanics was derived/developed through classical statistical mechanics and thermodynamics. I think Gibbs wrote done planck's constant in 1908, and of course there is planck's work. Callen's books talks about the Gibbs thing. | |
| Nov 23, 2016 at 19:17 | comment | added | Hamed.Begloo | Thank you. If you don't mind I prefer the question to be remained open to see others' opinions as well. Best regards. | |
| Nov 23, 2016 at 17:28 | comment | added | anna v | non general relativity quantum mechanics has a defined entropy counting states. General relativity is another story at the moment, but there is no standard quantization theory (string theories are candidates). Once that is done I suspect entropy will again be defined | |
| Nov 23, 2016 at 16:03 | comment | added | Hamed.Begloo | Another question: Are these laws still valid at quantum mechanical levels? Since we know mass-energy could be generated out of nothing(violation of conservation of energy) and causality would not exist and it means the arrow of time vanishes(violation of increase of entropy). | |
| Nov 23, 2016 at 15:56 | comment | added | anna v | I do not know the answer to this. At first glance "non conservation laws" would seem to be too many to classify easily | |
| Nov 23, 2016 at 15:30 | comment | added | Hamed.Begloo | Thank you for your answer. Another question: As we know conservation laws arise from the symmetries existing in the universe, can we also conclude that non-conservation laws (like "Increase in entropy") arises from some asymmetries existing in the universe? | |
| Nov 23, 2016 at 14:36 | history | answered | anna v | CC BY-SA 3.0 |