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Problem with photon's A momentum equation validity for all particles?

If we defineAn equation for momentum, $$p = \gamma mv, \tag{1}$$ then for photon we get some indeterminate momentum which is 0/0.

But the formula $E=(m^2c^4+p^2c^2)^{1/2}$ gives for photon $$p=E/c .\tag{2}$$ And from equation $E=hc/\lambda$, we get an energy which is finite and then using (2) we get the momentum.

If equation (1) gives photon's momentum in an indeterminate form which is not true, then why should be momentum defined that way?

Or is it for photon (1) doesn't workbe termed valid for all particles?

Problem with photon's momentum

If we define momentum, $$p = \gamma mv, \tag{1}$$ then for photon we get some indeterminate momentum which is 0/0.

But the formula $E=(m^2c^4+p^2c^2)^{1/2}$ gives for photon $$p=E/c .\tag{2}$$ And from equation $E=hc/\lambda$, we get an energy which is finite and then using (2) we get the momentum.

If equation (1) gives photon's momentum in an indeterminate form which is not true, then why should be momentum defined that way?

Or is it for photon (1) doesn't work?

A momentum equation validity for all particles?

An equation for momentum, $$p = \gamma mv, \tag{1}$$ then for photon we get some indeterminate momentum which is 0/0.

But the formula $E=(m^2c^4+p^2c^2)^{1/2}$ gives for photon $$p=E/c .\tag{2}$$ And from equation $E=hc/\lambda$, we get an energy which is finite and then using (2) we get the momentum.

If equation (1) gives photon's momentum in an indeterminate form which is not true, then should (1) be termed valid for all particles?

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If we define momentum, p=gamma factor* rest mass* velocity(1), $$p = \gamma mv, \tag{1}$$ then for photon we get some indeterminate momentum which is 0/0.

But the formula E=(rest mass^2c^4+p^2c^2)^0.5 gives for photon p=E/c(2). And from equation E=hc/lamda$E=(m^2c^4+p^2c^2)^{1/2}$ gives for photon $$p=E/c .\tag{2}$$ And from equation $E=hc/\lambda$, we get an energy which is finite and then using (2) we get the momentum.

If equation  (1) gives photon's momentum in an indeterminate form which is not true, then why should be momentum defined that way?

Or is it for photon (1) doesn't work?

If we define momentum, p=gamma factor* rest mass* velocity(1), then for photon we get some indeterminate momentum which is 0/0.

But the formula E=(rest mass^2c^4+p^2c^2)^0.5 gives for photon p=E/c(2). And from equation E=hc/lamda, we get an energy which is finite and then using (2) we get the momentum.

If equation(1) gives photon's momentum in an indeterminate form which is not true, then why should be momentum defined that way?

Or is it for photon (1) doesn't work?

If we define momentum, $$p = \gamma mv, \tag{1}$$ then for photon we get some indeterminate momentum which is 0/0.

But the formula $E=(m^2c^4+p^2c^2)^{1/2}$ gives for photon $$p=E/c .\tag{2}$$ And from equation $E=hc/\lambda$, we get an energy which is finite and then using (2) we get the momentum.

If equation  (1) gives photon's momentum in an indeterminate form which is not true, then why should be momentum defined that way?

Or is it for photon (1) doesn't work?

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