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In the SE answer Stephen Hawking says universe can create itself from nothing, but how exactly? reference is made to this ~= 1 hour video by Lawrence Krauss (go to start for 2m intro by R Dawkins if desired).

In the SE answer Stephen Hawking says universe can create itself from nothing, but how exactly? reference is made to this ~= 1 hour video by Lawrence Krauss (go to start for 2m intro by R Dawkins if desired).

You need to convince yourself that the 1st two (always was / all just happened) are utterly untenable in any reality that makes sense (and all those that don't as well). If you cannot conclude this then accept one or other (or both) and be happy - there's nothing to explain, move along, these are in fact the ones you want. There are many people who do seem able to do this - including the great Richard Krauss - more of him below. I do not find the arguments intellectually tenable (of the ones I understand or think I understand) and I hope to understand more of them. But I'd be surprised if anything changed (Kraus nothwithstanding). That's NOT a 'religious observation' but it does lead to a 'metaphysical' conclusion.

You need to convince yourself that the 1st two (always was / all just happened) are utterly untenable in any reality that makes sense (and all those that don't as well). If you cannot conclude this then accept one or other (or both) and be happy - there's nothing to explain, move along, these are in fact the ones you want. There are many people who do seem able to do this - including the great Lawrence Krauss - more of him below. I do not find the arguments intellectually tenable (of the ones I understand or think I understand) and I hope to understand more of them. But I'd be surprised if anything changed (Krauss nothwithstanding). That's NOT a 'religious observation' but it does lead to a 'metaphysical' conclusion.

Nice little dig in passing about certain model based theories at around 5-6m (some laughed). http://physics.stackexchange.com/posts/275959/edit

Nice little dig in passing about certain model based theories at around 5-6m (some laughed).