Timeline for Do Black Holes emit Hawking radiation while engulfing normal mass?
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| Jul 30, 2016 at 11:20 | comment | added | CuriousOne | @PeterShor: I didn't coin the phrase. Pauli did. Please take it up with him. | |
| Jul 30, 2016 at 11:19 | comment | added | Peter Shor | @CuriousOne: it's not worth my time arguing with somebody who obviously does not understand science. No chemist would believe that quantum mechanics is violated when dissolving sugar in a cup of coffee. | |
| Jul 30, 2016 at 11:17 | comment | added | CuriousOne | @PeterShor: See the definition of science for the practical distinction between a hypothesis and "it's not even wrong". This is the latter. | |
| Jul 30, 2016 at 11:13 | comment | added | Peter Shor | @CuriousOne: just because it's impossible to test whether dissolving sugar in a cup of coffee is non-unitary, it doesn't mean that you can claim that the information is not preserved, as you did. The laws of quantum mechanics, which preserve information, have passed every experimental test performed so far. | |
| Jul 27, 2016 at 18:55 | comment | added | CuriousOne | @PeterShor: I am not claiming anything of the sort. What I am saying is that a black hole is the worst system to test whether it is or not. The entire discussion is completely unphysical. Indeed, one can't even decide that question using a cup of coffee and sugar cubes, neither theoretically nor experimentally, so it's really just a matter of having the boring phrase "cup of coffee" replaced with "black hole" while ending up with the same non-physics. If somebody comes up with a precision tabletop unitarity experiment, then I am all ear. | |
| Jul 27, 2016 at 10:53 | comment | added | Peter Shor | @CuriousOne: are you claiming that quantum mechanics is non-unitary when you dissolve sugar in coffee? Because that's the technical definition of "information loss". If you think the dissolution of sugar is non-unitary and you can prove it experimentally, go ahead and do it and get your Nobel Prize. | |
| Jul 27, 2016 at 7:32 | comment | added | CuriousOne | No offense to Hawking, Susskind, John Rennie and Wikipedia, but not even a cup of coffee preserves information about the sugar falling into it, so take the "information paradox" with a strong cup of tea, you will need it to find anything of physical relevance in there... to this day I have not (and neither have any of the aforementioned). | |
| Jul 27, 2016 at 6:32 | answer | added | John Rennie | timeline score: 2 | |
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| Jul 27, 2016 at 5:33 | history | asked | Shubham Rajput | CC BY-SA 3.0 |