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I am coming from the computer science territory and have not a long trace in mechanics. My background in derivation of the system dynamics could be summarized with utilization of the Lagrange Mechanics but here is a vague point, with which I have confronted, recently. How does the existence of the the jerk term in dynamics of a Mass-Spring-Damper could be justified, where the Lagrange Dynamics just computes up to the 2nd derivatives of the generalized parameters?!...

If one considers a dynamic system, which (from left to right) consists of a spring with constant $k_1$, a mass $m$, a damper with constant $c$ and the other spring with constant $k_2$, all connected together, respectively, the derived dynamics of the system would be declared as: (The junction of spring $k_2$ and damper $c$ is massless)

$$ \frac{cm}{k_2} · \frac{d^{3} x}{d t^{3}} + m \frac{d^{2} x}{d t^{2}} + \left(c + \frac{k-1}{k_2}\right) \frac{dx}{dt}+ k_1 x= 0 $$$$ \frac{cm}{k_2} · \frac{d^{3} x}{d t^{3}} + m \frac{d^{2} x}{d t^{2}} + c \left( 1 +\frac{k_1}{k_2}\right) \frac{dx}{dt}+ k_1 x= 0 $$

Obviously, the Jerk term has been appeared, up there, noticeably.

Would you please guiding me that how such dynamics could be interpreted by either Lagrange Dynamics or Newtonian Method?!

I am coming from the computer science territory and have not a long trace in mechanics. My background in derivation of the system dynamics could be summarized with utilization of the Lagrange Mechanics but here is a vague point, with which I have confronted, recently. How does the existence of the the jerk term in dynamics of a Mass-Spring-Damper could be justified, where the Lagrange Dynamics just computes up to the 2nd derivatives of the generalized parameters?!...

If one considers a dynamic system, which (from left to right) consists of a spring with constant $k_1$, a mass $m$, a damper with constant $c$ and the other spring with constant $k_2$, all connected together, respectively, the derived dynamics of the system would be declared as: (The junction of spring $k_2$ and damper $c$ is massless)

$$ \frac{cm}{k_2} · \frac{d^{3} x}{d t^{3}} + m \frac{d^{2} x}{d t^{2}} + \left(c + \frac{k-1}{k_2}\right) \frac{dx}{dt}+ k_1 x= 0 $$

Obviously, the Jerk term has been appeared, up there, noticeably.

Would you please guiding me that how such dynamics could be interpreted by either Lagrange Dynamics or Newtonian Method?!

I am coming from the computer science territory and have not a long trace in mechanics. My background in derivation of the system dynamics could be summarized with utilization of the Lagrange Mechanics but here is a vague point, with which I have confronted, recently. How does the existence of the the jerk term in dynamics of a Mass-Spring-Damper could be justified, where the Lagrange Dynamics just computes up to the 2nd derivatives of the generalized parameters?!...

If one considers a dynamic system, which (from left to right) consists of a spring with constant $k_1$, a mass $m$, a damper with constant $c$ and the other spring with constant $k_2$, all connected together, respectively, the derived dynamics of the system would be declared as: (The junction of spring $k_2$ and damper $c$ is massless)

$$ \frac{cm}{k_2} · \frac{d^{3} x}{d t^{3}} + m \frac{d^{2} x}{d t^{2}} + c \left( 1 +\frac{k_1}{k_2}\right) \frac{dx}{dt}+ k_1 x= 0 $$

Obviously, the Jerk term has been appeared, up there, noticeably.

Would you please guiding me that how such dynamics could be interpreted by either Lagrange Dynamics or Newtonian Method?!

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I am coming from the computer science territory and have not a long trace in mechanics. My background in derivation of the system dynamics could be summarized with utilization of the Lagrange Mechanics but here is a vague point, with which I have confronted, recently. How does the existence of the the jerk term in dynamics of a Mass-Spring-Damper could be justified, where the Lagrange Dynamics just computes up to the 2nd derivatives of the generalized parameters?!...

If one considers a dynamic system, which (from left to right) consists of a spring with constant $k_1$, a mass $m$, a damper with constant $c$ and the other spring with constant $k_2$, all connected together, respectively, the derived dynamics of the system would be declared as: (The junction of spring $k_2$ and damper $c$ is massless)

$$ \frac{cm}{k_2} · \frac{d^{3} x}{d t^{3}} + m \frac{d^{2} x}{d t^{2}} + \left(c + \frac{k-1}{k_2}\right) \frac{dx}{dt}+ k_1 x= 0 $$

Obviously, the Jerk term has been appeared, up there, noticeably.

Would you please guiding me that how such dynamics could be interpreted by either Lagrange Dynamics or Newtonian Method?!

Thanks in advance.

I am coming from the computer science territory and have not a long trace in mechanics. My background in derivation of the system dynamics could be summarized with utilization of the Lagrange Mechanics but here is a vague point, with which I have confronted, recently. How does the existence of the the jerk term in dynamics of a Mass-Spring-Damper could be justified, where the Lagrange Dynamics just computes up to the 2nd derivatives of the generalized parameters?!...

If one considers a dynamic system, which (from left to right) consists of a spring with constant $k_1$, a mass $m$, a damper with constant $c$ and the other spring with constant $k_2$, all connected together, respectively, the derived dynamics of the system would be declared as: (The junction of spring $k_2$ and damper $c$ is massless)

$$ \frac{cm}{k_2} · \frac{d^{3} x}{d t^{3}} + m \frac{d^{2} x}{d t^{2}} + \left(c + \frac{k-1}{k_2}\right) \frac{dx}{dt}+ k_1 x= 0 $$

Obviously, the Jerk term has been appeared, up there, noticeably.

Would you please guiding me that how such dynamics could be interpreted by either Lagrange Dynamics or Newtonian Method?!

Thanks in advance.

I am coming from the computer science territory and have not a long trace in mechanics. My background in derivation of the system dynamics could be summarized with utilization of the Lagrange Mechanics but here is a vague point, with which I have confronted, recently. How does the existence of the the jerk term in dynamics of a Mass-Spring-Damper could be justified, where the Lagrange Dynamics just computes up to the 2nd derivatives of the generalized parameters?!...

If one considers a dynamic system, which (from left to right) consists of a spring with constant $k_1$, a mass $m$, a damper with constant $c$ and the other spring with constant $k_2$, all connected together, respectively, the derived dynamics of the system would be declared as: (The junction of spring $k_2$ and damper $c$ is massless)

$$ \frac{cm}{k_2} · \frac{d^{3} x}{d t^{3}} + m \frac{d^{2} x}{d t^{2}} + \left(c + \frac{k-1}{k_2}\right) \frac{dx}{dt}+ k_1 x= 0 $$

Obviously, the Jerk term has been appeared, up there, noticeably.

Would you please guiding me that how such dynamics could be interpreted by either Lagrange Dynamics or Newtonian Method?!

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