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Apr 4, 2014 at 14:16 | comment | added | alanf | Superdeterminism is a stronger position than determinism of the whole universe. Superdeterminism specifically states that the experimental apparatus will be correlated in a specific way with the experiment you decide to do: this is required to explain the results of EPR experiments. I didn't say determinism or superdeterminism has to be random: I don't know where you got that idea. | |
Apr 4, 2014 at 14:09 | comment | added | Ben | Firstly superdeterminism is determinism of the whole universe including the experimenter. That's the normal use of the word determinism, the super is superfluous. If you want to exclude the experimenter the word is dualism. Secondly your argument why determinism conflicts with the theory of knowledge makes no sense. Nobody says determinism has to be random. | |
Apr 4, 2014 at 13:13 | comment | added | alanf | There are two problems with your comment. First, I didn't say determinism is false, I said superdeterminism is false. Determinism and superdeterminism are not the same. Superdeterminism claims that somehow an experimental apparatus is correlated with the tests we are going to do. Second, the theory of knowledge is not experimentally testable (see "Logic of Scientific Discovery" by Karl Popper, Chapter 2) so an idea could be incompatible with it and also not be experimentally testable. | |
Apr 4, 2014 at 12:36 | comment | added | Ben | " it is incompatible with the best available theory of knowledge. " No. Determinism, technically, is unfalsifiable and cannot be incompatible with any experimental result. (Even apparently random results could be in principle be pre-scripted - the Creator may have pre-scripted every quantum collapse). Unable to downvote as I lack rep. | |
Apr 4, 2014 at 11:05 | history | answered | alanf | CC BY-SA 3.0 |