How do astronomers measure the distance to a star or other celestial object? - Physics Stack Exchange most recent 30 from physics.stackexchange.com 2019-09-18T17:44:42Z https://physics.stackexchange.com/feeds/question/24927 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/rdf https://physics.stackexchange.com/q/24927 23 How do astronomers measure the distance to a star or other celestial object? user230 https://physics.stackexchange.com/users/0 2011-06-11T14:06:43Z 2015-04-08T18:43:16Z <p>How do scientists measure the distance between objects in space? For example, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Centauri">Alpha Centauri</a> is 4.3 light years away.</p> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/24927/-/24928#24928 6 Answer by Cameron for How do astronomers measure the distance to a star or other celestial object? Cameron https://physics.stackexchange.com/users/1878 2011-06-11T18:05:47Z 2011-06-25T17:20:23Z <p>This is one of my favorite questions in astronomy. It's extremely clever really. The Sun emits a certain colour of light that can be analysed. This colour is obviously completely white other than certain frequencies. For example, an object emitting a turquoise light would be emitting every colour frequency other than parts of red perhaps (there are other ways like emitting only the colour frequency of turquoise). <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Centauri" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Alpha_Centauri</a> has a yellow colour so might look something like the following image when the frequency of light is dispersed (effectively what a rainbow is).</p> <p><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/SOeaY.jpg" alt="Not actually what it looks like"></p> <p>Different materials burn a "barcode" of the image. For example this might be <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium" rel="nofollow noreferrer">helium</a>:</p> <p><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/MW0N2.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></p> <p>So you can see the pattern of lines that tell it is helium. However there is a difference in the placement of these lines. The actual helium is further to the right (it might be right in the actual spectrum) so an effect has happened called red shift. This happens because, as the galaxies are moving away from us (an effect of the big bang), they pull the light waves and stretch them out making their frequencies longer. So we can use this to tell how quickly the galaxy is moving away from us and we also know that the universe is expanding at 72.4&nbsp;km/s/Mpc (this means for every <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsec#Megaparsecs_and_gigaparsecs" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Mpc</a> [or about 3 million light years] the universe is expanding by 72.4&nbsp;km per second) and from these we can work out the exact distance away from us.</p> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/24927/-/24929#24929 6 Answer by Wedge for How do astronomers measure the distance to a star or other celestial object? Wedge https://physics.stackexchange.com/users/4578 2011-06-11T18:46:35Z 2011-06-11T18:46:35Z <p>Triangulation. The Earth is not stationary, it moves in a 150 million km (1 AU) radius orbit around the Sun. If you measure the apparent position of a star at different points in that orbit a near enough object will appear to be displaced by a measurable amount, this displacement is called parallax, which is typically measured across a 1 AU baseline. A parsec (3.26 light-years) is the distance that corresponds to one arcsecond* of parallax, and distance is inversely proportional to parallax (so that Proxima Centauri's parallax of 0.7687 arcseconds corresponds to 1.301 parsecs distance, or 4.243 light-years).</p> <p>The more accurately you can measure the apparent position of a star the more accurately you can measure its distance from Earth. At the cutting edge of technology it's necessary to account for relativistic effects from the bending of light due to the Sun's gravity.</p> <p><em>arcsecond</em>: a circle has 360 degrees, each degree has 60 arcminutes, each minute has 60 arcseconds</p> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/24927/-/24930#24930 27 Answer by dagorym for How do astronomers measure the distance to a star or other celestial object? dagorym https://physics.stackexchange.com/users/335 2011-06-12T03:07:05Z 2015-04-08T18:43:16Z <p>There are a variety of methods used to measure distance, each one building on the one before and forming a cosmic distance ladder.</p> <p>The first, which is actually only usable inside the solar system, is basic <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Radar</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIDAR" rel="nofollow noreferrer">LIDAR</a>. LIDAR is really only used to measure distance to the moon. This is done by flashing a bright laser through a big telescope (such as the 3.5&nbsp;m on <a href="http://www.apo.nmsu.edu/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Apache Point</a> in New Mexico (USA), see the <a href="http://physics.ucsd.edu/~tmurphy/apollo/apollo.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Apollo Project</a>) and then measuring the faint return pulse with that telescope from the various corner reflectors placed there by the Apollo moon missions. </p> <p>This allows us to measure the distance to the Moon very accurately (down to centimeters I believe). Radar has been used at least out to Saturn by using the 305&nbsp;m <a href="http://www.naic.edu/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Arecibo radio dish</a> as both a transmitter and receiver to bounce radio waves off of Saturn's moons. Round trip radio time is on the order of almost 3 hours.</p> <p>If you want to get distances to things beyond our solar system, the first rung on the distance ladder is, as Wedge described in his answer, triangulation, or as it is called in astronomy, parallax. To measure distance in this manner, you take two images of a star field, one on each side of the Earth's orbit so you effectively have a baseline of 300 million kilometers. The closer stars will shift relative to the more distant background stars and by measuring the size of the shift, you can determine the distance to the stars. This method only works for the closest stars for which you can measure the shift. However, given today's technology, that is actually quite a few stars. The current best parallax catalog is the <a href="http://tdc-www.harvard.edu/catalogs/tycho2.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Tycho-2 catalog</a> made from data observed by the ESA <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipparcos" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Hipparcos</a> satellite in the late 1980s and early 1990s.</p> <p>Parallax is the only direct distance measurement we have on astronomical scales. (There is another method, <a href="https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/24927/how-do-astronomers-measure-the-distance-to-a-star-or-other-celestial-object/24931#24931">the moving cluster method</a>, but it has very limited applicability.) Beyond that everything else is based on data calibrated using stars for which we can determine parallax. And they all rely on some application of the distance-luminosity relationship</p> <p>$m - M = 5log_{10}\left(\frac{d}{10pc}\right)$</p> <p>where </p> <ul> <li>m = apparent magnitude (brightness) of the object</li> <li>M = Absolute magnitude of the object (brightness at 10 parsecs)</li> <li>d = distance in parsecs</li> </ul> <p>Given two of the three you can find the third. For the closer objects, for which we know the distance, we can measure the apparent magnitude and thus compute the absolute magnitude. Once we know the absolute magnitude for a given type of object, we can measure the apparent magnitudes of these objects in more distant locations, and since we now have the apparent and absolute magnitudes, we can compute the distance to these objects.</p> <p>It is this relationship that allows us to define a series of "standard candles" that serve as ever more distant rungs on our distance ladder stretching back to the edge of the visible universe.</p> <p>The closest of these standard candles are the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cepheid_variable" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Cepheid variable</a> stars. For these stars, the period of their variability is directly related to the absolute magnitude. The longer the period, the brighter the star. These stars can be seen in both our galaxy and in many of the closer galaxies as well. In fact, observing Cepheid variable stars in distant galaxies, was one of the original primary mission of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble_Space_Telescope" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Hubble Space Telescope</a> (named after <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Hubble" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Edwin Hubble</a> who measured Cepheids in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_Galaxy" rel="nofollow noreferrer">M31</a>, the Andromeda Galaxy, thus proving that it was an “island universe” itself and not part of the Milky Way). </p> <p>Beyond the Cepheid variables, other standard candles, such as planetary nebula, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tully%E2%80%93Fisher_relation" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Tully-Fisher relation</a> and especially <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_Ia_supernova" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Type 1a supernova</a> allow us to measure the distance to even more distant galaxies and out to the edge of the visible universe. All of these later methods are based on calibrations of distances made using Cepheid variable stars (hence the importance of the Hubble mission to really nail down those observations.</p> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/24927/-/24931#24931 6 Answer by Peter Mortensen for How do astronomers measure the distance to a star or other celestial object? Peter Mortensen https://physics.stackexchange.com/users/174 2011-06-13T14:07:43Z 2011-06-13T14:29:04Z <p>A little known method is the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_cluster_method">convergent point method</a> (or moving cluster method). Stars in open clusters move parrallel through space and due to the perspective effect they will appear to move towards a common point on the sky. This point depends on the distance and the distance can thus be calculated if the point in the sky can be determined. I have never seen this method mentioned in any astronomy book, but it was the subject of an astronomy class I took (in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidelberg">Heidelberg</a>, but that is irrelevant).</p> <p>This method is complementary to the triangulation (parrallax) method and these two methods thus validate each other's distance determinations. It is, however, more limited in scope (only for clusters and only if the cluster does not move directly away or towards us). However, the article says,</p> <blockquote> <p>The moving cluster method was in fact the only way astronomers had to measure the distance to these clusters with any precision for some time in the early 20th century."</p> </blockquote> <p>The newer (better) proper motion determinations from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipparcos">Hipparcos</a> should enable extension of this method further out (the doppler data is already known), at least as an internal control.</p> <p>A good description of this method with good diagrams for illustration can be found in <em><a href="http://www.astro.washington.edu/courses/labs/clearinghouse/labs/word_documents/distance_hyades.pdf">The Distance to the Hyades Star Cluster</a></em> (PDF).</p>