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comment Does 'electricity' have mass? Is 'electricity' tangible?
Great answer, thank you. This is exactly the question that was assumed to be true for the jurisdiction the article I mentioned was talking about, but imo it made some shortcuts there that I didn't quite agree with. The Miss. case is especially interesting to me for that reason.
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comment Does 'electricity' have mass? Is 'electricity' tangible?
"Incorrect, because the wires always contain the same number of electrons." But are the electrons always the same ones? I mean, a tube of water also always has the same amount of water particles (in an idea situation) - the ones coming out are replenished with new ones coming in. Is it the same with electrons? Do they go out the one end, and come in the other end?
Jan
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comment Does 'electricity' have mass? Is 'electricity' tangible?
Also, the author of said paper is a CS major who then went on to law school - he may not be a physicist but outright dismissing theories based on your prejudices is, to put it mildly, not intellectually sound (you may have said it in jest but if you'd read my other comments on various replies you'd have to acknowledge that within the framed context there is at least the semblance of relevance, enough to merit serious consideration).
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comment Does 'electricity' have mass? Is 'electricity' tangible?
Yes, there's lawdiscuss.com, but I haven't had time yet to summarize the paper I was talking about - it's quite dense and I don't have much time. I also haven't made up my mind yet on the positions in it. It's still on my list though...
Dec
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comment Does 'electricity' have mass? Is 'electricity' tangible?
Anyway, your assessment is not quite accurate, since for the law it does matter if an item is 'tangible', because it allows a whole different set of operations to be applied to it. A 'good' is a very precisely defined concept and if a sword in World of Warcraft can be qualified as a 'good', it can be pawned, stolen, etc, all according to the rules of property law (again, all of this within my specific context, Dutch law, although there are crossovers to other systems). I will update here when I have a larger writeup of the argument somewhere else.
Dec
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comment Does 'electricity' have mass? Is 'electricity' tangible?
(this 'post on enter' is getting annoying, how am I supposed to write paragraphs?)
Dec
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comment Does 'electricity' have mass? Is 'electricity' tangible?
Thanks for your answer David. True, one can have different connotations with a generic term like 'electronic goods'. I used it in the sense of a virtual item in a MMORPG or MUVE.
Dec
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comment Does 'electricity' have mass? Is 'electricity' tangible?
Thank you, this seems very relevant to my question. In how far are you in disagreement with the commenters below? Would you agree with the statement that an electric current has mass associated with it, or maybe that it is embodied by a movement in matter?
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comment Does 'electricity' have mass? Is 'electricity' tangible?
Thank you. It seems that is fair to say that the magnitude of an electric current is related to a movement of matter, and that a binary pattern therefore is 'tangible', in the sense that it has actual matter associated with it. Would you agree with me phrasing it this way?
Dec
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comment Does 'electricity' have mass? Is 'electricity' tangible?
Thanks. What would you call the charged particles? They're usually the electrons, right? So is it correct to say that electrons that are flowing through a gate on an IC are what constitute the state of the gate? That the 'state' of the gate is embodied by electrons, who have mass?
Dec
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comment Does 'electricity' have mass? Is 'electricity' tangible?
I mentioned above that I wouldn't go into the details, but I've changed my mind a bit ;) The point the author who argued that virtual goods are 'goods' was making was that no, electronic goods aren't just numbers. They're a combination of data, stored in various places and transmitted in various forms, modified and rendered by the software context in which they live (the case was about things like swords in World of Warcraft). I'm almost at my character limit here, so I can't repeat the whole argument, but if there is sufficient interest I can summarize it elsewhere :)
Dec
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comment Does 'electricity' have mass? Is 'electricity' tangible?
On the legal side, well a significant number of prominent scholars in the field disagree with you :) I think this is not the place for such a discussion, but I could summarize the arguments if you'd like when I have some time in a few days (I only have papers in Dutch making the case). There is much more to it than you imply, and much of it is quite technical (as in, 'legal' technical), and I wasn't convinced from the outset either if this question would matter, but I now think it does.
Dec
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comment Does 'electricity' have mass? Is 'electricity' tangible?
Thank you for your answer. I need to read carefully and re-read the link I posted to fully understand in the context of the argument re: 'virtual' goods as 'goods'.
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