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How is the claim "information is indestructible" compatible with "information is lost in entropy"? Let's make things as specific and as simple as possible. Let's forget about quantum physics and unitary dynamics, let's toy with utterly simple reversible cellular automata. Consider a spacetime consisting of a square lattice of cells with a trinary (3-...

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I don't know in which context Susskind mentioned this, but he probably meant time evolution is unitary. That means, among other things, that it's reversible, ie no information can ever get lost because you can essentially, starting from any time (time-like slice), run time backwards (theoretically) and compute what happened earlier. If black hole evolution ...

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No, it cannot be enough. Stokes' theorem says that the volume ($\Omega$) integral of $d\omega$, a form that is the exterior derivative of another one (of $\omega$), may be written as a surface integral. But it doesn't allow us to rewrite the volume integral of a general integrand (which isn't the exterior derivative of anything) such as the Lagrangian ...

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The utility of using branes to realize gauge theories in string theory, compared to using heterotic, lies in the ease with which we can decouple bulk gravity. Basically you can zoom in to the branes to isolate the degrees of freedom on them, forgetting the gravity. In contrast, in heterotic compactificarions, both gauge fields and gravity live in the same ...

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The firewall is a new term in an extremely provocative paper http://arxiv.org/abs/arXiv:1207.3123 Black Holes: Complementarity or Firewalls? by Ahmed Almheiri, Donald Marolf, Joseph Polchinski, James Sully that claims that an observer who falls into a black hole gets burned at the horizon, after all. So the event horizon – the surface of a black hole ...

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I believe one has to distinguish two kinds of dualities. AdS/CFT, even in the context where it describes an RG flow (so not the pure AdS_5xS^5 case), is an exact duality to a four-dimensional theory, which interpolates between one well-defined conformal field theory in the UV and another conformal field theory in the IR. So holographic renormalization is in ...

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Let's clarify some common misconceptions here. Suppose we have a spherically symmetric black hole. Let's perform a mode analysis here. For simplicity, work with l=0 spherical harmonics for massless fields first. The same conclusion still applies to higher harmonics or massive fields, but the analysis is more complicated. Work in Eddington-Finkelstein ...

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It is maybe an underappreciated fact that the old relation between the 2d Wess-Zumino-Witten model on a Lie group $G$ and the 3d $G$-Chern-Simons theory is an example of the holographic principle. See for instance Sergei Gukov, Emil Martinec, Gregory Moore, Andrew Strominger, Chern-Simons Gauge Theory and the AdS(3)/CFT(2) Correspondence (arXiv:hep-th/...

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The following assumes that the holography to which the OP refers is that which is studied in high energy thoery. Holography is not just a framework that relates something (the RHS) on the region to something (the LHS) on its boundary It is a framework for studying the equivalence of certain theories, one of which is defined in the bulk of some ...

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I decided to do the calculation and see what happens. According to Wikipedia, the radius of a Planck particle is $$r = \sqrt{\frac{2Gh}{c^3}}.$$ Apparently, the surface area of a Schwarzchild black hole is given by $4\pi r^2$, the same as a Euclidean sphere. I found this surprising until user10001 confirmed that it's because $r$ is defined as $\sqrt{A}/4\... 6 The holographic principle is a stronger proposition than the entropy bounds but what is the strongest possible formulation that is still valid is disputable. Nevertheless, some facts are well-known. The entropy bounds say that the maximum number of distinguishable microstates that may describe the interior of a region with a fixed boundary is$C\cdot \exp(A/...

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I'll forewarn that I'm no string theorist and Susskind's work is not therefore fully wonted to me (and likely I couldn't understand it if it were) so I do not fully know the context (of the supposed quote that entropy is hidden information). But what he maybe means by "hidden" information is one or both of two things: the first theoretical, the second ...

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Explaining the math behind the holographic principle would be lengthy exercise. Is that really what you want? A short hand-waving argument would be that you can pack a limited number of qbits (in the form of photons) together in a given space. If you take long wavelength photons, you can pack a lot of them together before a black hole forms. Two ...

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The holographic principle tells us that the description of what happens in a volume of space can be encoded on a surface that surrounds it. This is related to the Bekenstein bound that tells us that the amount of information in a volume of space cannot be more than the area of the surrounding surface in units of a quarter of a planck area. This in turn as ...

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They are pretty much unrelated concepts. The only similarity is that both the holographic principle and the way holograms work can be described as encoding the information necessary to reconstruct an $N$-dimensional view on an $N-1$-dimensional surface. But beyond that qualitative description, there are not any meaningful similarities.

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As I said in the comment, the information is not lost simply because of the holographic image at event horizon. This was the result of a long 20 year battle between Susskind and Hawking. Susskind had the final laugh! I suggest you to read the wiki pages: Black hole information paradox,Holographic Principle I'll quote an excerpt from wiki, This idea ...

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There is a resolution using the two-state formalism of quantum mechanics. Instead of a single state, we have two: $|\psi_i\rangle$ and $\langle \psi_f |$. $\langle \psi_f |$ is the postselected state. If $\rho_f$ is the postselection operator, then $\langle \psi_f | = \langle \psi_i | \rho_f$. Let the subscripts $e, f, i, o$ represent the early Hawking ...

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You can't say whether the scalings $S\sim R^2$ and $E\sim R$ are the same or different because they are relationships between different pairs of physical quantities! It's like comparing apples and oranges. Well, you could say that the scalings are different already because they contain different quantities but if you defined "different" in this way, $S\sim R^... 4 In principle yes, but there are several conceptual and technical issues that make it unclear how this could be achieved. Even though the AdS/CFT correspondence is conjectured to be exact(with much evidence hinting at this), it is hard to prove this essentially because in order to do calculations, one still has to use approximations and perturbation theory on ... 3 The number$10^{123}$emerges as (roughly) the number of Planck areas contained within the boundary of the observable universe. If each Planck area can be (roughly) in two states, a total of$10^{123}$yes/no questions suffice to describe the boundary of the universe and - via the (still speculative) holographic principle - the whole universe. In other words,... 3 as for entaglement issues, observer centred perspective and the equivalence principle Bousso arXiv.org/1207.5192 ...Recently, it was argued that an observer falling towards a suciently old black hole encounters a rewall at the horizon. This would amount to a gross violation of the equivalence principle in low-curvature regions... Borun D. Chowdhury, ... 3 Maimon and the crank's proposals have problems with them. Take Maimon's proposal first. Let's say there is an external system which is initially fully entangled with some infalling information. Then, the black hole fully evaporates, and assuming purity, this external system is now fully entangled with the outgoing Hawking radiation. Maimon's assertion is ... 3 I find it hard to take this paper overly seriously because of this closing line: Nevertheless, assuming that the universe is finite and therefore the resources of potential simulators are finite, then a volume containing a simulation will be finite and a lattice spacing must be non-zero, and therefore in principle there always remains the ... 3 I wouldn't say that "holographic theories are non-local by definition". On the contrary, in AdS/CFT the CFT is completely local and satisfies cluster decomposition. The cluster decomposition property in AdS can be proved using the CFT bootstrap for all CFTs in$d > 2\$ (see http://arxiv.org/abs/arXiv:1212.3616, the proof only requires CFT `axioms', i.e....

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The holographic priciple, as I understand it, is a general feature gravity has to obey due to its non-local behavior (as seen in the black hole entropy). These features should be there in any consistent theory of quantum gravity, and in this sense are more "general" than just string theory. It can in principle be formulated on any background, and the dual ...

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