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Variables in the Dirac Equation Lagrangian [duplicate]

(Warning: I'm a student of mathematics with no training in physics.) In derivations of the Dirac equation from an action principle, one encounters the action $$S= \displaystyle\int\,d^4x ...
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Lagrangian Equations of Motion, Conservative Forces

I'm new to this topic so please bear with me. Here on wikipedia we have the Lagrangian equations of motion: $$ \frac{d}{dt}\left(\frac{\partial T}{\partial \dot{q}}\right) - \frac{\partial ...
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Variation of Lagrangian density $\mathcal{L}$ w.r.t $x_\mu$

If a function $f(x(t),y(t))$ has no explicit dependence on the variable $t$, then $\frac{\partial f}{\partial t}=0$. In quantum field theory, the Lagrangian density ...
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When is numerical value of Lagrangian evaluated on-shell a full differential?

I noticed recently that for many field equations, Lagrangian evaluated on-shell (i.e. using equations of motions) is a full derivative- a divergence or something, or in other words a boundary term. ...
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Field equations of a given action

Provided an action: $$S[A_\nu] = \int\left(\frac{1}{4\mu_0}(A_{\gamma,\mu}-A_{\mu,\gamma})(A_{\zeta,\alpha}-A_{\alpha,\zeta})\eta^{\gamma\zeta}\eta^{\mu\alpha}+\frac{1}{2}\nu^2A_\mu A_\gamma -\beta ...
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Derivation of Euler-Lagrange equation from principle of least action

When deriving the Euler-Lagrange equation for a field $\phi$ the term $$ \int\textrm{d}x^{\mu}~\partial_{\mu}\left( \dfrac{\partial \mathcal{L} }{\partial(\partial_{\mu}\phi)}\right)\delta\phi $$ is ...
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How do I model the motion of a particle changing acceleration vector (2D)?

I want to model a particle with an arbitrary initial velocity, and estimate the time it takes to reach a final point given a constant magnitude of acceleration. It should take the quickest path to the ...
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General form for functional derivatives

Working on the hamiltonian formalism applied to canonical field theory, how do I deduce the general form for the functional derivatives $\frac{\delta}{\delta \pi}$ and $\frac{\delta}{\delta \phi}$ ...
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Electromagnetism theory and complex scalar field

I've got the following problem for classical field theory lecture: Find equations of motion (equations of field?), canonical and symmetrical tensor of energy-momentum in electromagnetic field ...
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Lagrangian Mechanics - Commutativity Rule $\frac{d}{dt}\delta q=\delta \frac{dq}{dt} $

I am reading about Lagrangian mechanics. At some point the difference between the temporal derivative of a variation and variation of the temporal derivative is discussed. The fact that the two are ...
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Physical motivation for Lagrangian formalism

This is more of a request for clarification of understanding and intuition rather than a question, but I hope people can help me with it. I have learned calculus of variations and have subsequently ...
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How to calculate the second functional derivative of the action of a one-particle system?

Given the Lagrangian $$L(q,\dot{q})=m\dot{q}^2/2-V(q)$$ and the corresponding action $$S[q]\equiv\int_0^t dt' (m\dot{q}^2/2-V(q)),$$ I need to be able to evaluate the second functional derivative ...
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Use partial or covariant derivatives when deriving equations of a field theory?

I feel like this question has been asked before but I can't find it. would the Euler Lagrange equation for, say, the standard model Lagrangian be $$\frac{\partial L}{\partial \phi}=\partial_\mu ...
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Euler-Lagrange Equation with logarithmic potential

A particle moving towards the origin has initial conditions $x(t=0) = 1$ and $\dot{x}(t=0)=0$. If the Lagrangian is $$L:=\frac{m}{2}\dot{x}^2 -\frac{m}{2}\ln|x|$$ This should satisfy ...
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Euler-Lagrange equations in General Relativity

When obtaining the Euler Lagrange equations for a scalar field with higher order derivatives in curved space is it the same to use $$ -\partial_\nu\partial_\mu\frac{\partial \sqrt{-g} ...
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Why treat complex scalar field and its complex conjugate as two different fields?

I am new to QFT, so I may have some of the terminology incorrect. Many QFT books provide an example of deriving equations of motion for various free theories. One example is for a complex scalar ...
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Question on basic tensorial calculus on field theory

Working on the Maxwell field as a gauge theory, at some point the following derivative comes up: $\frac{\partial(\partial_iA_0)}{\partial A_0}=0$ which must be, accordingly to the theory, zero. My ...
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$SU(2)$ Yang-Mills EOM

I'm having trouble with some indices on my yang-mills lagrangian. I have a gauge group $SU(2)$ and a field strength tensor $$ ...
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Derivatives involving four vectors [closed]

The Schrödinger lagrangian for complex fields is $$L=\frac{1}{2m}(D_i \psi)^* Di \psi - \frac{i}{2} \left[\psi ^* D_0 \psi - (D_o \psi)^* \right] - \frac{1}{4}F^{\mu \nu}F_{\mu \nu}$$ Where ...
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Deriving Electromagnetism energy-stress tensor in GR [closed]

Please find the mistake in the following calculations. We have $L=-F^{\mu\nu}F_{\mu\nu}$, and try to derive the energy-stress tensor using $\delta(-g)^{1/2}=\frac{1}{2}(-g)^{1/2}g^{\mu\nu}\delta ...
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Understanding Derivation of Euler-Lagrange

I am trying to understand the derivation of the Euler-Lagrange equation. I drew a graph below. So, according to the graph, $$ \int_{t_1}^{t_2} L(x+\delta{x},\dot{x}+\delta\dot{x}\,t) dt - ...
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Can you help me solve this using the current value Hamiltonian? [closed]

Okay, so I am getting a little stuck on this question, I will post it and then tell you how far I get. $$ max - \int_0^2 (x^2 + u^2)e^{-0.03t}dt\, $$ $$ x' = x-2u $$ $$ x(0) = 3 $$ $$ x(2)free $$ ...
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Action and equation of motion for codim-2 “cosmic” brane in Einstein gravity, in 3d

Consider the following action, $$ S = S_{EH} + S_{B} = -\frac{1}{8\pi G_N}\int d^3 X \sqrt{G}R + T \int dy \sqrt{g} , $$ where, $G_{\mu \nu}$ is the bulk metric, and $g$ is the induced metric on the ...
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Shape of water on top of a thin sheet of stretched plastic

Consider a thin sheet of plastic (a square sheet for simplicity) that is stretched taught in a plane parallel to the ground. If a volume of water is then placed on top of the thin plastic sheet, then ...
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Einstein equations from the Palatini action [closed]

I am trying to obtain the usual form of vacuum Einstein's equations $$ R_{\mu \nu} - \frac{1}{2} R g_{\mu \nu} + \Lambda g_{\mu \nu} = 0 $$ from the first-order (Palatini) tetradic action $$ ...
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Derivation of the Cartan Field equation

Please help me understand how, in this introduction to spacetime and fields, the Einstein Cartan equation: $$C^k_{\hspace{2mm} [ji]}-\delta_{[i}^{k}C^l_{\hspace{2mm} ...
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Simplify calculation of geodesics from action principle

I don't understand a step with the calculation of geodesics equations from action principle on this link : demo geodesics equations My issue is the following step : $$\int ...
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shape formed by a stiff string with ends pinched together [closed]

Suppose I have a string of length $L$ with a bending energy given by $$E=\frac{1}{2}\epsilon \int_0^L ds\, (\mathbf{R}''(s))^2 $$ Let's say I form a bight with it by pinching the ends together, ...
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Problem in Euler-Lagrange imply Newton

I'm self-studying Mechanics and I have a little problem: We can see that in Landau's book or in Wikipedia that when we inject the lagrangian in Euler Lagrange equation the term $\frac{\partial ...
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Why can the bra and ket be varied independently?

Given a functional which depends on a function (ket), and its complex conjugate (bra), e.g. $$F[\varphi] = \langle \varphi|\hat{F}|\varphi\rangle = \int \varphi^{*}(\mathbf{r}) \hat{F} ...
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What is the path taken by a “cable car”?

A well known result in variational calculus & Lagrangian Mechanics is the solution to the "brachistochrone" problem, where it is found the path connecting two points, A & B such that the time ...
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Is it possible to derive the shape of the bending plates by use calculus of variations?

Of course the main idea to solve this problem is find the physical quantity which is have smallest or largest value. I’ve tried some, such as area of surfaces, But I think it can’t be a solution. Does ...
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Variation of a Lagrange density Symmetries

So I am reading Goenner's Spezielle Relativitästheorie and I am currently in chapter §4.9.1 Variation under Inclusion of Coordinates p. 129. So basically we have: $$\delta W_\zeta=\int d^4x' ...
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To derive the relation between work function and potential energy

I'm reading "The variational principles of mechanics- Lanczos", The author mentions a relation between Work-Function $U(q_1,q_2,\cdots,q_n,\dot q_1,\dot q_2,\cdots,\dot q_n)$ and the potential ...
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How to obtain calculus of variation of Einstein summation?

I have the Lagrange density for Maxwell field, which is $\mathcal{L}=-\frac{1}{4}F_{\mu\nu}F^{\mu\nu}$, where $F_{\mu\nu}=\partial_{\mu}A_\nu-\partial_{\nu}A_{\mu}$. How can I obtain ...
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Variational proof of the Hellmann-Feynman theorem

I use the following notation and definition for the (first) variation of some functional $E[\psi]$: \begin{equation} \delta E[\psi][\delta\psi] := \lim_{\varepsilon \rightarrow 0} \frac{E[\psi + ...
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Euler-Lagrange for simple scalar field (Peskin & Shroeder)

I'm reading Peskin & Schroeder and they give as a simple example the Lagrangian $$\mathcal{L} = \frac{1}{2} (\partial_\mu \phi)^2$$ First of all, I'm guessing that $(\partial_\mu \phi)^2$ is ...
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Deriving Maxwell's equation from the Lagrangian of an electromagnetic field with a charge density $\rho$

I want to derive Maxwell's equation from the Lagrangian of an electromagnetic field with a charge density of $\rho$ The Lagrangian is given by ...
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How to derive the true spatial paths (orbits) from the Jacobi-Maupertuis condition

How can differential equations describing a physical object's true spatial paths (orbits) be derived from the time-independent Jacobi-Maupertuis principle of least action? According to this, it is ...
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Classical mechanics principle of least action

I don't understand here what does the book mean by expanding in terms of $\delta{q}$ and $\delta{\dot{q}}$ can someone explain that part.
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Is boundary well defined if variation of metric don't vanish on the boundary?

Suppose that you want to calculate the variation $\delta S$ of an action induced by some arbitrary variation $\delta g_{\mu \nu}$ of the spacetime metric : \begin{equation} S = \int_{\Omega} ...
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Calculus of Variations - Virtual displacements

I am currently reading "The Variational Principles of Mechanics - Cornelius Lanczos", in which the author talks about the variation of a function $F(q_1, q_2, \dots q_n)$ where $q_1, q_2, \dots q_n$ ...
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Derivative condition in the Brachistochrone problem

I know that in general, to find the minimum of some line integral with given end points I need to solve E-L equations. what disturbs me is that I have seen in my class the famous Brachistochrone ...
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What are the boundary conditions associated to this lagrangian?

Suppose that $L(q^i, \dot{q}^i)$ is a standard and well behaved lagrangian associated to some Dirichlet boundary conditions : $q^i(t_1) = q_1^i$ and $q^i(t_2) = q_2^i$. Now I have this new lagrangian ...
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Gibbons-Hawking Variation

I know there already exist some questions about this and some very good answers. However, I am still having trouble understanding one part of the calculation. The GHY term is given by ...
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Boundary conditions of fields from the stationary action principle

First principle of stationary action Consider a real Klein-Gordon scalar field $\phi$ living in a $D$ dimensional flat spacetime. The field is considered off shell (the on shell condition is defined ...
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Commutativity Variation and derivative

When in general is true that $\nabla_{\mu}\delta=\delta\nabla_{\mu}$ where $\nabla_{\mu}$ is covariant derivative? I was thinking this when one has to find the equations of motion for example in ...
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Why can't we fix the metric and its derivatives at boundary, with the variational method?

In general relativity and for its Einstein-Hilbert action, we usually ask that the metric variations $\delta g_{\mu \nu}$ cancel on the boundary $\partial \, \Omega$ of some region $\Omega$ of the ...
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Variation of the Einstein-Hilbert action in D dimensions without the Gibbons-Hawking-York term

Consider the standard Einstein-Hilbert action in $D \ne 2$ dimensions spacetimes : \begin{equation} S_{EH} = \frac{1}{2 \kappa} \int_{\Omega} R \; \sqrt{- g} \; d^D x, \end{equation} where $\Omega$ is ...
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Proof of Hamilton's principle [duplicate]

Is there a anything like a proof of Hamilton's principle? Where would I find it?