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Pauli exclusion principle for the protons in water

The Pauli exclusion principle applies to all fermions, right? And protons are fermions. So if you consider a water molecule, and swap the protons in the two hydrogens, shouldn't the wavefunction of ...
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Why according to Hund's first rule all electron with same spin should occupy orbitals when partially filling?

I get that because of coulomb repulsion initially all the electrons will not occupy the same site but will single occupy the orbitals.But while doing so how do they know to keep their spins aligned ...
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How are electrons restricted to individual orbitals?

Since orbitals are just regions of electron density, they allow electrons to occupy the same space. I feel like in some sense this contradicts the Pauli exclusion principle limiting two fermions, or ...
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What's the elementary reason for the formation of a band gap?

Bohr's solution for an isolated hydrogen atom showed that there are only discrete allowed energy levels, $E_n = -{E_0\over n^2}$ and the solution of the Schreodinger equation provided a certain ...
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Can two electrons have the same momentum and spin directions?

I am trying to understand the Pauli exclusion principle. Here is an except from Feynman Lectures on Physics It just isn’t possible at all for two Fermi particles—such as two electrons—to get into ...
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Few particle fermion system wavefuction

Suppose I have 3 fermions($\left|\psi_1\right\rangle$, $\left|\psi_2\right\rangle$, $\left|\psi_3\right\rangle$) and a system with 3 states ( $\left|1\right\rangle$, $\left|2\right\rangle$, ...
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How does the Pauli exclusion principle create a force in degenerate matter?

My understanding is that when it comes to forming a white dwarf, it is the electron degeneracy pressure, due to the Pauli Exclusion Principle, preventing collapse in of the white dwarf. If the ...
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What causes Paulis Exclusion Principle?

Currently I'm taking an astrophysics class and has now come across electron degeneracy. As far as I understand, the reason why white dwarfs and such, does not collapse, is due to this, meaning that ...
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Pauli's exclusion principle? [duplicate]

What is the idea behind Pauli s exclusion principle? Why should an electron or any particle having non integral spin obey this principle?
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Reconciling electron subshell configurations and the Pauli exlcusion principle

I'd like to prefix this with an apology: I have no formal training in QP, and most of what I know has been obtained by reading Wikipedia. As such, it'd be really helpful if any answers took my lack of ...
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Is “microbunching” in a free electron laser limited by the Pauli exclusion principle?

As I understand it, a free electron laser can basically be pictured as a synchrotron light source with an undulator which by the particular setup causes the electrons to self-attune so that they ...
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Question about the exclusion principle

I understand the Pauli exclusion principle like this: For two electrons to occupy the same state their spins must be opposite. If the two electrons are in different states (different spatial ...
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Electron shells in atoms: What causes them to exist as they do?

I have seen similar posts, but I haven't seen what seems to be a clear and direct answer. Why do only a certain number of electrons occupy each shell? Why are the shells arranged in certain distances ...
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Why do the anticommutation relations imply Fermi–Dirac statistics (Pauli Exclusion Principle) for the field quanta?

I was reading the following article Fermion FIelds and discovered the following passage not fully explained to me : It is these anticommutation relations that imply Fermi–Dirac statistics for ...
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How to show that two spin one half particles must form a anti-symmetric wavefunction?

I am stuck on how to connect the ideas that two spin half particles must form a anti-symmetric wavefunction. Is there a proof on how to show that two spin one half particles must form a anti-symmetric ...
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Pauli's Exclusion Principle

Can someone tell me how Pauli's Exclusion Principle gives stability to matter? I know two electrons cannot occupy the same energy state so that is why we cannot squeeze bulk matter after a limit and ...
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Why there are no uuu and ddd baryons with spin 1/2?

What is preventing $Δ^{++}$ and $Δ^-$ baryons from going to a lower-energy state with spin 1/2 similar to that of protons and neutrons? I don't think the Pauli exclusion principle can prevent it ...
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What does the Pauli Exclusion Principle say about a superposition of spin states?

Suppose we have an atom. It is commonly said that because of the PEP, two electrons can't be in the ground state unless they have opposite spins, because no two electrons can have the same ...
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How do I describe two entangled electrons in the same state except for a different spin

I am trying to formulate the wave function that describes two entangled electons having the same position but opposite spin. According to the Pauli exclusion principle this should be possible. And ...
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What are the parameters for Pauli's repulsion pseudo-force?

I have found the following formula for the repulsion potential due to the overlap of the electron clouds arising from Pauli's exclusion principle: $$V = A\exp(-r/\phi)$$ where r is the distance ...
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Is there a connection between exclusion principle and the speed of light?

As far as I know exotic stars are composed of degenerate matter created by the balance between gravity and pressure of exclusion principle and as the mass of the star grows it goes into more ...
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How would Hamiltonian for several fermions with spin look?

All discussions of Pauli exclusion principle I read usually talked about antisymmetric wavefunctions, from which the princinple appears. But I would like to see a Hamiltonian for multiple fermions, ...
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Quantum mechanics and atomic bonding

I'm learning quantum mechanics in high school this year, and I have several doubts. I've done my research on various websites but my understanding is still fuzzy. I understand that when I punch a wall ...
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Aufbau principle in modern quantum theory

What is the rigorous definition of the Aufbau principle and the mathematical model used for its description? From Wikipedia, we have that the principle postulates a hypothetical process in which an ...
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Can Pauli exclusion be described locally?

Is it possible, in principle, to define the exclusion principle in a "local" sense, as a property of the tangent space at a point, or a single fiber of a spin bundle? Or does it necessitate a global ...
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What happens when electron degeneracy pressure is being overcome (right before an object turns into a black hole)?

I was wondering about hydrostatic equilibrium (the balance of radially inward and outward forces) in large (i.e. above the Chandrasekhar limit) stars. It is often said that when the gravitational ...
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Electrons, spins, and degeneracy

In an atom, two electrons can have the same set of $n,\ell,m$ quantum numbers as long as they have opposite spins. My introductory physics and chemistry courses have all introduced this as two ...
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Does black hole formation contradict the Pauli exclusion principle?

A star's collapse can be halted by the degeneracy pressure of electrons or neutrons due to the Pauli exclusion principle. In extreme relativistic conditions, a star will continue to collapse ...
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How strong is electron degeneracy pressure?

I'm trying to get some specific numbers for electron degeneracy that I can understand, using a concrete example. Take for example this portion of carbon crystal: Exactly how much energy would be ...
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Is there is a reason for Pauli's Exclusion Principle?

As a starting quantum physicist I am very interested in reasons why does Pauli's Exclusion Principle works. I mean standard explanations are not quite satisfying. Of course we can say that is because ...
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How axiomatic is the symmetrization requirement (i.e. the Pauli principle)? (in QM)

I've so far always been told, that the symmetrization requirement is an axiom on the level of the Schrödinger equation and the statistical interpretation of the wave function (or it's absolute value). ...
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Are composite bosons always bosonic (e.g. the pion-cloud surrounding the nuclei)?

The $\pi$-meson is a boson, but consists of quark-antiquark (fermions). It seems to me that at some energy level (equivalently distance) the inner structure (fermionic nature of the quarks) of the ...
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Electron Decay, Why are there P and higher orbitals?

Related: Decay from excited state to ground state My confusion arose initially from the definition of binding energy being the lowest energy state (n=1) in the hydrogen atom. This, I assume, is ...
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Why do electrons couple in atoms?

In describing electron states in hydrogen, we have a very "simple" picture, at least in intro-quantum. But this only has one electron! As we permit more electrons, we also have things like the ...
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Revisiting the microscopic concept of Touching with some more questions

This question is regarding the amazing answer given by Terry Bollinger at this Phys.SE post. I think this answer is very helpful but i do have some standing questions. He says Once the bonding ...
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Some fundamental results in QFTs [closed]

In quantum theory we have some principles that guides us, e.g. Pauli's principle. What I am after in this question is a list of fundamental results, be it equation or identities that must hold in a ...
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Experimental evidence of Pauli's exclusion principle

A fermion is described by a set of quantum numbers, this set of numbers lead us to a unique wave function. If two fermions are described by the same wave function (violating the Pauli's exclusion ...
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Why do nucleons feel a repulsive force when less than 1 fm?

My Modern Physics textbook by Taylor states that when nucleons are less than 1 fm apart, there is a strong repulsive force between them. I am fairly certain that it is not the Pauli Exclusion ...
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Physical implications behind the exchange antisymmetry condition of fermions

Explain the Physical implications behind the exchange antisymmetry condition of fermions. This condition forms the basis of the pauli principle but I can't find/understand what happens physically that ...
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Fermions in the same state

I need some clarification of what is meant when someone says "fermions cannot occupy the same quantum state". Consider two bosons: $$\psi(\vec{r_1}, s_1, \vec{r_2}, s_2) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \left( ...
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Is the electromagnetic force responsible for contact forces? [duplicate]

It is commonly stated that there are four fundamental forces, or interactions, in nature. It is natural to consider which of those is responsible for the normal force we meet in elementary physics. ...
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Where does the Pauli Repulsive Force come from that counteracts the attraction between atoms and ions? [duplicate]

I'm learning about such things as ionic and covalent bonds, and the reason given for the ionic bonds is electrostatic attraction. However, if that were true, then the two ions would accelerate toward ...
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Pauli principle for particles very far apart from each other

Can two electrons be in the same state, when they belong to two different atoms, which are "far enough" (whatever that means) apart from each other? With "same state" I mean that (as far as ...
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Explanation of Superconductivity

I can't get a definitive explanation of why superconductivity happens and I am getting mixed explanations from my textbooks. I will tell you what I know and hopefully you can correct any ...
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wavefunction antisymmetry as a limit of a deeper geometric constraint

Recently there was an interesting reformulation of Pauli principle in terms of polytopes: http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/8 My question is, can this suggest that fermionicity is not a fundamental ...
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Falling through the ground [duplicate]

I do not know much about physics but I know that according to Newtons third law of motion when we walk we are pushing the ground down but the ground is pushing us up. What force is making the ground ...
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Possible states for two electrons in the helium atom

Consider the helium atom with two electrons, but ignore coupling of angular momenta, relativistic effects, etc. The spin state of the system is a combination of the triplet states and the singlet ...
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Quantum computing and Pauli exclusion principle?

Ok so I saw this video by Brian Cox where he explains how no 2 particles can have same energy level. Later I watched video "Was Brian Cox wrong?". Where they explained that he (probably on purpose) ...
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What prevents bosons from occupying the same location?

The Pauli exclusion principle states that no two fermions can share identical quantum states. Bosons, one the other hand, face no such prohibition. This allows multiple bosons to essentially occupy ...
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Is there anything to prevent paired-up neutrons from a complete overlap

The reason "neutrons don't overlap", as DarenW explained it, has to do with intricate forces at play that take into account the spins, iso-spins and symmetry of the wavefunctions. However, assume I ...