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Does a four-divergence extra term in a Lagrangian density matter to the field equations?

Greiner in his book "Field Quantization" page 173, eq.(7.11) did this calculation: ${\mathcal L}^\prime=-\frac{1}{2}\partial_\mu A_\nu\partial^\mu A^\nu+\frac{1}{2}\partial_\mu A_\nu\partial^\nu ...
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Derivation of Lagrangian?

I know that the Lagrangian $L$ is defined to be $T-V$, i.e. the difference between kinetic energy and potential energy. Also the Action $S$ is defined to be $\int Ldx$ and from this we can derive ...
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About turbulence modeling

I have some questions about this paper: Lagrangian/Hamiltonian formalism for description of Navier-Stokes fluids. R. J. Becker. Phys. Rev. Lett. 58 no. 14 (1987), pp. 1419-1422. After reading ...
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Caldeira-Leggett Dissipation: cannot get it

I am trying to understand the Caldeira-Leggett model. It considers the Lagrangian $$L = \frac{1}{2} (\dot{Q}^2 - (\Omega^2-\Delta \Omega^2)Q^2) - Q \sum_{i} f_iq_i + \sum_{i}\frac{1}{2} (\dot{q}^2 - ...
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Derivation of Noether's theorem - A problem with physical significance

My question is about the field theoretic version of Noether's theorem. I am deeply troubled by one of the hypotheses of the theorem. As it is the standard textbook for Lagrange mechanics, I'll follow ...
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Determinant for a coupled fluctuation Lagrangian

Lets consider a bosonic physical system in variables $t, x$ and $y(x)$ ($x$ dependent) with a classical Lagrangian $L$. To first order in fluctuations $x \to x+\xi_1$ and $y \to y+\xi_2$ the ...
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Shouldn't Quantum Mechanics change in a black hole?

I recently learnt that the conservation laws are a consequence of the symmetries of space and time (the Lagrangian in Newton mechanics). Since space-time change in a black hole wouldn't quantum ...
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Lagrangian for a moving spring device

How can I write the proper Lagrangian for such as system as the one shown in picture? Am confused about what is the suitable way to designate the coordinate.
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What's the physical intuition for symplectic structures?

I always thought about symplectic forms as elements of areas in little subspaces because of the Darboux theorem, however I cannot get the physical intuition for it and for the hamiltonian vector ...
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Equation of motion for cyclic model of the universe

I recently started to study about cyclic universe. I came across this article [1]. My question is about the action that used for describing the cyclic model: $$S = \int d^{4}x\sqrt{-g}(\frac{1}{16\pi ...
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Mechanical similarity in Landau

I've read this very short paragraph from Landau & Lifshitz's Mechanics (Chap.2, Par.10) (that you can find here) about Mechanical similarity. I was looking for some more detailed explanations of ...
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Is Feynman talking about the Zeroth Law of Thermodynamics?

In Volume 1 Chapter 39 of the Feynman Lectures on Physics, Feynman derives the ideal gas law from Newton's laws of motion. But then on page 41-1, he puts a caveat to the derivation he has just ...
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General equation of motion for elementary particles

Elementary particles can be grouped into spin-classes and described by specific equations, see below: Is there a general Lagrangian density from which all these equations can be derived? A ...
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Isn't the Jacobi constant just the Lagrangian times 2?

At this wikipedia page the Jacobi constant is expressed as: $$C_J=2\left(\frac{v^2}{2}-U\right)$$ where $U$ is the potential energy and $v$ is velocity. If kinetic energy $T$ is defined (as it ...
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Lagrangian with vanishing conjugate momentum, independent variables

Given a Lagrangian density $\mathcal L(\phi_r,\partial_\mu\phi_r,\phi_n,\partial_\mu\phi_n)$, for which we find out that for some $\phi_n$ its conjugate momentum vanishes: ...
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Angular momentum of particle in dipole magnetic field

Basically I'm just trying to find the expression for the angular momentum of a particle of mass $m$ and charge $q$ in a dipole magnetic field. In cylindrical coordinates, ...
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Translation symmetry and the non-conserved momentum in Viscous fluids

Even though a viscous fluid has a translation symmetry (invariance) for its Lagrangian , it still 'waste' Linear momentum. How come ?, isn't the rule that every symmetry yields a conservation law ?
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Lagrange's Equations for a Tetherball

I'm trying to write down the equations of motion for a tetherball moving around a pole while the string is getting shorter. --- MAJOR EDIT --- I started with Lagrange: $$ x(t)=l(t) \sin (\theta) ...
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Parity violating Dirac particle

We normally write down the Dirac Lagrangian as \begin{equation} {\cal L} _D = \bar{\psi} ( i \partial _\mu \gamma ^\mu - m ) \psi \end{equation} but are the Lagrangian's, \begin{equation} ...
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The equation of the location of L1

On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point#L1 it says that the location of L1 can be determined as $\frac{M_1}{(R-r)^2}=\frac{M_2}{r^2}+\left(\frac{M_1}{M_1+M_2}R-r\right)\frac{M_1+M_2}{R^3}$, ...
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Restrained double pendulum

The equations of motion of a double pendulum are well-known. Usually you'd have the them expressed in the rotations $\theta_1(t)$ and $\theta_2(t)$. There are two degrees of freedom. Now consider the ...
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Ball rolling without slipping inside a hollow cylinder

A small ball of radius $r$ performes small oscillations within a hollow cylinder of radius $R$. What would be the angular frequency of the oscillations given that the rolling is without slipping? The ...
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Derivation of equations of motion in Nordstrom's theory of scalar gravity?

Nordstrom's theory of a particle moving in the presence of a scalar field $\varphi (x)$ is given by $$ S = -m\int e^{\varphi (x)}\sqrt{\eta_{\alpha \beta}\frac{dx^{\alpha}}{d ...
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How to analyze this constraint question

Let $\gamma$ be a smooth curve in the plane, and introduce curvilinear coordinates $q_1,q_2$ on a neighborhood of $\gamma$; $q_1$ is the direction of $\gamma$ and $q_2$ is distance from the curve. ...
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A discrete approach to the catenary

I'm trying to work out a model for the system above, that is, $N$ particles of unitary mass subject to the constraints: $$1=\varphi _i(\mathbf r _1,\mathbf {r}_2,...,\mathbf r _n)=|\mathbf ...
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Where are the L3, L4, and L5 of a hyperbolic orbit?

Do the L3, L4, L5 points exist in hyperbolic orbits? If yes, then where do they lie?
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How to introduce generating function in Hamiltonian formalism for field theories?

Let's have hamiltonian $$ H(\psi , P ,\partial_{i}\psi ) = P\partial_{0}\psi - L(\psi , \partial_{\mu}\psi ), \quad P = \frac{\partial L}{\partial (\partial_{0}\psi)}. \qquad (.0) $$ I tried to ...
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Single particle trajectory in a quadrupole potential

I am wondering if there are any studies of a single (classical) particle trajectory in quadrupole potential: $$ V(x,y,z)=A\sqrt[]{\frac{x^2 + y^2}{a} + \frac{z^2}{b}} $$
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Equations of motion for a pendulum and spring system

The question is available here: I've modeled the building as a rod on a torsional spring (with a pendulum hanging from the top). $\phi$ is the angle from the centre for the pendulum and $\theta$ ...
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Trouble with calculating Christoffel symbols of FLRW metric using Lagrangian method

The FLRW metric which I am using is $$ds^2 = dt^2 - \frac{a(t)^2}{c^2} \left( dx^2 + dy^2 + dz^2 \right)$$ where $a(t)$ is the so-called 'scale factor'. I did not want to calculate the Christoffel ...
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Proving conservation of angular momentum in an elliptic billiard problem

This is for a course focusing on the connections between Newtonian, Lagrangian and Hamiltonian formalisms. We're given an elliptic billiard table with foci 1 and 2, where $L_1$ and $L_2$ are the ...
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Lagrangians for non-local equations of motion

Say I have a multicomponent field $X_a(x,t)$ such that I know it Fourier modes satisfy the following equation of motion, $(\delta_{ab} \partial_t + \Omega_{ab}(t))X_b(k,t) = e^t \int \frac{d^3p ...
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relevant 4-dimensional theory with interacting vector field

A simple langragian that gives the simplest interaction is $\mathcal{L}=(\partial\phi)^2+(m\phi)^2$ where $m$ is some constant. Does anyone know of theory in four dimensions which is physically ...
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Normal modes of oscillation: how to find them

Are normal modes the eigenvectors of the matrix $(\omega ^2 T- V)$ where $T$ is the matrix of kinetic energy and $V$ is the matrix of potential energy? Is it the only way to express them? How can I ...
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Why friction force is force of constraint?

My understanding about constraint force is that it is a force which limits the geometry of particle's motion. For example, situations such as the particle trapped in a track or limited in domain can ...
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Finding moment of inertia from Lagrange equation

I'm getting the following information: Consider a system consisting of two rotating bars of length $\ell$ and with uniform mass density and each with total mass $m$. The bars are attached to a common ...
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Lepton number conservation and global phase transformation

Why the lepton number conservation is connected with the invariance of the lagrangian under global phase (U(1)) transformation of the wave function? How to distinguish global gauge phase and global ...
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Spring Force in a Dynamic Equation

I am working on dynamic simulation of a bipedal robot, I have dynamic equations of a preliminary structure. But Now I have to add some springs to the dynamics. I am having a problem of how to account ...
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What is the “momentum” referred to in the energy-momentum tensor

What is the "momentum" referred to in the energy momentum tensor from GR? Is it $m\dot{x}$ or is it the canonical momentum $\frac{d}{dt} \left(\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{x}}\right)$ Also, I ...
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How can a transversality condition be invoked to reduce the Euler-Lagrange equation?

I asked this question regarding the Euler-Lagrange equation at MSE and have gotten no response. I will ask it here too. I think I might have more luck here since the E-L equation is at the core of ...
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Lagrangian - Particle wave interaction

Assume that we got a Lagrangian of a classical wave $\phi(x,t)$ and a classical particle $q(t)$. The interaction term in the lagrangian is $$ L_{int}=\frac g 2 \dot{\phi}(x=q(t),t)$$ It is very ...
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A posteriori solution to the Hamilton Jacobi equation

I was wondering about the following: For many simple systems it is far too cumbersome to solve the Hamilton Jacobi equation compared with the Hamilton or Lagrange formalism. Now I was wondering, ...
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How could I show that ${\mathcal{L}\left(e\right)}$ is ${SU\left(2\right)_{L}\times U\left(1\right)_{Y}}$ invariant?

How can I show that ${\mathcal{L}\left(e\right)}$ is ${SU\left(2\right)_{L}\times U\left(1\right)_{Y}}$ invariant by checking explicitly that the ${\chi_{L}}$, ${e_{R}}$, ${\vec{W}_{\mu}}$ and ...
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Scalar field lagrangian in curved spacetime

I am studying inflation theory for a scalar field $\phi$ in curved spacetime. I want to obtain Euler-Lagrange equations for the action: $$ I\left[\phi\right] = \int ...
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Determining the Action of the Electromagnetic Field - Examples

In Landau Volume 2 (page 71) an expression for determining the entire electromagnetic Lagrangian is given. What would be an explicit numerical examples of working this idea out along the lines Landau ...
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Stability of trajectory of disc which moves along a straight curve

Let's have a disc which moves along a straight curve on a plane in a uniform gravitational field. There need to discover the stability of it's trajectory. I represented the possible deviation of the ...
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How to find angular velocity of a point inner a circumference

Let's consider a cicumference that have the center in the origin of axes and rotates around x-axes. Let's stick a bar in a point $A$ of this circumference and at the end of the bar let's stick a mass ...
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Describing the movement of the object in a particular situation in Lagrangian way

Suppose there is a object M, (sliding motion) moving by the initial speed $v$ and the initial location $x_0$. Otherwise noted, friction is assumed to be nonexistent. It then meets a circular mold ...
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Comparing Lagrangian in Special Relativity vs General Relativity for a weak gravitational field

This is a sequel to this question. Who knows a difference between the Lagrangian in SR and GR for a weak gravitational field in non-relativistic case? What is the reason of this difference?