For questions involving the Lagrangian formulation of a dynamical system. Namely, the application of an action principle to a suitably chosen Lagrangian or Lagrangian Density in order to obtain the equations of motion of the system.
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Why does calculus of variations work?
How does it make sense to vary the position and the velocity independently?
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Velocity is the derivative of position, so how can you treat them as independent variables? Doesn't every physics ...
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Hamilton's Principle
Hamilton's principle states that a dynamic system always follows a path such that its action integral is stationary (that is, maximum or minimum).
Why should the action integral be stationary? On ...
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Deriving the Lagrangian for a free particle
I'm a newbie in physics. Sorry, if the following questions are dumb. I began reading "Mechanics" by Landau and Lifshitz recently and hit a few roadblocks right away.
Proving that a free particle ...
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Why the Principle of Least Action?
I'll be generous and say it might be reasonable to assume that nature would tend to minimize, or maybe even maximize, the integral over time of $T-V$. Okay, fine. You write down the action ...
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Book about classical mechanics
I am looking for a book about "advanced" classical mechanics. By advanced I mean a book considering directly Lagrangian and Hamiltonian formulation, and also providing a firm basis in the geometrical ...
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How general is the Lagrangian quantization approach to field theory?
It is an usual practice that any quantum field theory starts with a suitable Lagrangian density. It has been proved enormously successful. I understand, it automatically ensures valuable symmetries of ...
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Can Noether's theorem be understood intuitively?
Noether's theorem is one of those surprisingly clear results of mathematical calculations, for which I am inclined to think that some kind of intuitive understanding should or must be possible. ...
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Deriving Newton's Third Law from homogeneity of Space
I am following the first volume of the course of theoretical physics by Landau. So, whatever I say below mainly talks regarding the first 2 chapters of Landau and the approach of deriving Newton's ...
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What is the relativistic action of a massive particle?
all Lorentz observers watching a particle move will compute the same value for the quantity
$$ds^2 = -(c \, dt)^2 + dx^2 + dy^2 + dz^2,$$
$$ds^2 = g_{\mu\nu}dx^{\mu}dx^{\nu},$$
and ''ds/c'' is then ...
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Galilean invariance of Lagrangian for non-relativistic free point particle?
In QFT, the Lagrangian density is explicitly constructed to be Lorentz-invariant from the beginning. However the Lagrangian
$$L = \frac{1}{2} mv^2$$
for a non-relativistic free point particle is ...
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Why does charge conservation due to gauge symmetry only hold on-shell?
While deriving Noether's theorem or the generator(and hence conserved current) for a continuous symmetry, we work modulo the assumption that the field equations hold. Considering the case of gauge ...
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What variables does the action $S$ depend on?
Action is defined as,
$$S ~=~ \int L(q, q', t) dt,$$
but my question is what variables does $S$ depend on?
Is $S = S(q, t)$ or $S = S(q, q', t)$ where $q' := \frac{dq}{dt}$?
In ...
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What is the difference between Newtonian and Lagrangian mechanics in a nutshell?
What is Lagrangian mechanics, and what's the difference compared to Newtonian mechanics? I'm a mathematician/computer scientist, not a physicist, so I'm kind of looking for something like the ...
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Is the principle of least action a boundary value or initial condition problem?
Here is a question that's been bothering me since I was a sophomore in university, and should have probably asked before graduating:
In analytic (Lagrangian) mechanics, the derivation of the ...
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Is the Lagrangian of a quantum field really a 'functional'?
Weinberg says, page 299, The quantum theory of fields, Vol 1, that
The Lagrangian is, in general, a functional $L[\Psi(t),\dot{\Psi}(t)$], of a set of generic fields $\Psi[x,t]$ and their time ...
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Why not using Lagrangian, instead of Hamiltonian, in non relativistic QM?
When we studied classical mechanics on the undergraduate level, on the level of Taylor, we covered Hamiltonian as well as Lagrangian mechanics.
Now when we studied QM, on the level of Griffiths, we ...
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How do I show that there exists variational/action principle for a given classical system?
We see variational principles coming into play in different places such as Classical Mechanics (Hamilton's principle which gives rise to the Euler-Lagrange equations), Optics (in the form of Fermat's ...
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Why can't any term which is added to the Lagrangian be written as a total derivative (or divergence)?
All right, I know there must be an elementary proof of this, but I am not sure why I never came across it before.
Adding a total time derivative to the Lagrangian (or a 4D divergence of some 4 ...
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invariance of lagrangian in Noether's theorem
Noether's theorem needs the lagrangian to be invariant.
However, given a lagrangian $L$, we know that the lagrangians $\alpha L$ (where $\alpha$ is any constant) and $L + \frac{df}{dt}$ (where $f$ is ...
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Why lagrangian is negative number?
In the special relativistic action for a massive point particle,
$$\int_{t_i}^{t_f}\mathcal {L}dt,$$
why is the Lagrangian
$$\mathcal {L}=-E_o\gamma^{-1}$$
a negative number?
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Lagrangian NOT of the form $ T-U$
My Physics teacher was reluctant to define Lagrangian as Kinetic Energy minus Potential Energy because he said that there were cases where a system's Lagrangian did not take this form. Are you are ...
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The meaning of action
The action
$$S=\int L \;\mathrm{d}t$$
is an important physical quantity. But can it be understood more intuitively? The Hamiltonian corresponds to the energy, whereas the action has dimension of ...
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Is there any physics that cannot be expressed in terms of Lagrange equations?
A lot of physics, such as classical mechanics, General Relativity, Quantum Mechanics etc can be expressed in terms of Lagrangian Mechanics and Hamiltonian Principles. But sometimes I just can't help ...
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Why are L4 and L5 lagrangian points stable?
This diagram from wikipedia shows the gravitational potential energy of the sun-earth two body system, and demonstrates clearly the semi-stability of the L1, L2, and L3 lagrangian points. The blue ...
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A Question about Virtual Work related to Newton's Third Law
In describing D'Alembert's principle, the lecture note I was provided with states that the total force $\mathbb F_l$ acting on a particle can be taken as,
$$\mathbb F_l=F_l+\sum_mf_{ml}+C_l,$$
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Why are coordinates and velocities sufficient to completely determine the state and determine the subsequent motion of a mechanical system?
I am a Physics undergraduate, so provide references with your responses.
Landau & Lifshitz write in page one of their mechanics textbook:
If all the co-ordinates and velocities are ...
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Writing $\dot{q}$ in terms of $p$ in the Hamiltonian formulation
In the Hamiltonian formulation, we make a Legendre transformation of the Lagrangian and it should be written in terms of the coordinates $q$ and momentum $p$. Can we always write $dq/dt$ in terms of ...
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Is there a Lagrangian formulation of statistical mechanics?
In statistical mechanics, we usually think in terms of the Hamiltonian formalism. At a particular time $t$, the system is in a particular state, where "state" means the generalised coordinates and ...
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Why does no physical energy-momentum tensor exist for the gravitational field?
Starting with the Einstein-Hilbert Lagrangian
$$ L_{EH} = -\frac{1}{2}(R + 2\Lambda)$$
one can formally calculate a gravitational energy-momentum tensor
$$ T_{EH}^{\mu\nu} = -2 \frac{\delta ...
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Derivation of Maxwell's equations from field tensor lagrangian
I've started reading Peskin and Schroeder on my own time, and I'm a bit confused about how to obtain Maxwell's equations from the (source-free) lagrangian density $L = ...
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Do an action and its Euler-Lagrange equations have the same symmetries?
Assume a certain action $S$ with certain symmetries, from which according to the Lagrangian formalism, the equations of motion (EOM) of the system are the corresponding Euler-Lagrange equations.
Can ...
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More general invariance of the action functional
I will formulate my question in the classical case, where things are simplest.
Usually when one discusses a continuous symmetry of a theory, one means a one-parameter group of diffeomorphisms of the ...
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Can a force in an explicitly time dependent classical system be conservative?
If I consider equations of motion derived from the pinciple of least action for an explicilty time dependend Lagrangian
$$\delta S[L[q(\text{t}),q'(\text{t}),{\bf t}]]=0,$$
under what ...
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Can auxiliary fields be thought of as Lagrange multipliers?
In the BRST formalism of gauge theories, the Lautrup-Nakanishi field $B^a(x)$ appears as an auxiliary variable
$$\mathcal{L}_\text{BRST}=-\frac{1}{4}F_{\mu\nu}^a F^{a\,\mu\nu}+\frac{1}{2}\xi B^a B^a + ...
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Gauge fixing and equations of motion
Consider an action that is gauge invariant. Do we obtain the same information from the following:
Find the equations of motion, and then fix the gauge?
Fix the gauge in the action, and then find the ...
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Lagrangian to Hamiltonian in Quantum Field Theory
While deriving Hamiltonian from Lagrangian density, we use the formula
$$\mathcal{H} ~=~ \pi \dot{\phi} - \mathcal{L}.$$
But since we are considering space and time as parameters, why the formula
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Is there a valid Lagrangian formulation for all classical systems?
Can one use the Lagrangian formalism for all classical systems, i.e. systems with a set of trajectories $\vec{x}_i(t)$ describing paths?
On the wikipedia page of Lagrangian mechanics, there is an ...
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Conversion of the Nambo-Goto action into the Polyakov action?
I`ve read that the Nambo-Goto action containing the induced metric $\gamma_{\alpha\beta}$
$$\tag{1} S_{NG} ~=~ -T\int_{\tau_i}^{\tau_f} d\tau \int_0^{\ell} d\sigma \sqrt{-\gamma}$$
can be converted ...
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Improved energy-momentum tensor
While still dealing with this issue, I've stumbled upon this answer to a question asking about the conserved quantity corresponding to a scaling transformation. It mentions that in accordance with ...
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The Euler-Lagrange equation in special relativity
How can I derive the Euler-Lagrange equations valid in the field of special relativity? Specifically, consider a scalar field.
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Lagrangian mechanics vs Hamiltonian mechanics
First of all, what are the differences between these two: Lagrangian mechanics and Hamiltonian mechanics?
And secondly, do I need to learn both in order to study quantum mechanics and quantum field ...
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Noether current for the Yang-mills-higgs lagrangian
I am trying to calculate the Noether's current, more specifically, the energy density of the Yang-mills-Higgs Lagrangian. Please refer to the equations in the Harvey lectures on Magnetic Monopoles, ...
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what this Lagrangian stands for?
i saw this Lagrangian in notes i have printed:
$$
L(x,dx/dt) = (m^2(dx/dt)^4)/12 + m(dx/dt)^2*V(x) -V^2(x)
$$
what is it? is it physical? it seems like it doesn't have a right units of energy,
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Varying an action (cosmological perturbation theory)
I am stuck varying an action, trying to get an equation of motion. (Going from eq. 91 to eq. 92 in the image.)
This is the action
$$S~=~\int d^{4}x \frac{a^{2}(t)}{2}(\dot{h}^{2}-(\nabla h)^2).$$
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Does a constant factor matter in the definition of the Noether current?
This is a very basic Lagrangian Field Theory question, it is about a definition convention. It takes much more time to typeset it than answering, but here it is:
Consider a field Lagrangian with only ...
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Electrodynamics and the Lagrangian density
Could anyone tell me what equations can I obtain from the Lagrangian density
$${\cal L}(\phi,\,\,\phi_{,i},\,\,A_i, \dot A_i,\,\,A_{i,j})~=~\frac{1}{2}|\dot A+\nabla\phi|^2-\frac{1}{2}|\nabla \times ...
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How to tell local and unlocal in QFT?
I'm taking QFT course in this term. I'm quite curious that in QFT by which part of the mathematical expression can we tell a quantity or a theory is local or unlocal.
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Finding Lagrangian of a Spring Pendulum
I'm trying to understand Morin's example of a spring pendulum. What I don't get is his expression for $T$. I can understand the $\dot x^2$ term in the brackets. But I don't understand the $(l + ...
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Can cos(x) or sin(x) be the function of stationary action?
Is there a way to express $\cos(x(t))$ (or $\sin(x(t))$) as the solution to the Euler-Lagrange equation, in other words is there a sense in which this function is the path of stationary action?
