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Is there something more to Noether's theorem?

From the definition of Lagrangian mechanics, Noether's theorem shows that conservation of momentum and energy comes from invariance vs time and space. Is the reverse true? Are Lagrangian mechanics ...
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The Lagrangian of a Rocket

I am trying to understand how to write the Lagrangian of a system which consists of a rocket losing gas mass in a rate of $\frac{dm}{dt}$, the gas moving in a velocity of $u_0$ in the rocket's view? ...
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Action functional of Born-Infeld model

I have a Born-Infeld action functional like this $$I[A,\phi]~=~\int b^2(\sqrt{1+(|\bigtriangledown\times A|^2)/b^2}-1)+|D_A\phi|^2 + b^2(1-\sqrt{(1-|\phi|^2)^2/b^2} ).$$ Have any books or notes talk ...
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Proof of Lagrangian

I'm having some trouble with some math on a problem for a physics class (looking for help with some partial derivatives, not an answer). Let $$L'=L+\dfrac{dF}{dt},$$ where $L$ is a Lagrangian and $F$ ...
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What does it mean for an action to be defined “on-shell”?

Some actions like 11D supergravity are defined "on-shell". What does this mean exactly? Can you give me an example? Say for example the Klein-Gordon action. Can this be defined on-shell too?
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Fourier transform for $W(J)$ in a free QFT

In chapter I.3 and I.4 of A. Zee's QFT in a Nutshell, he starts with the theory $$ \mathcal{L}(\varphi) = \frac 12[(\partial\phi)^2-m^2\varphi^2]+J\varphi $$ Using the path integral approach, he ...
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Spring mass on a rotating disc

I demonstrated the problem in the figure below. Edit: Original figure is 90 degrees rotated clockwise. I couldn't rotate the figure here. Disc is massles and horizontal. Vibrating mass only moves ...
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How to get the inverse of the propagator?

For a free EM Lagrangian, the propagator is as below in momentum space: $$ S[A]=\int d^4kA_{\mu}(k)\underbrace{[-k^2g^{\mu\nu}+k^{\mu}k^{\nu}]}_{M}A_{\nu}(k). $$ It is easy to calculate the $\det(M)$ ...
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Acoustical wave equation from Hamilton's principle

It is common to show the features and power of the Hamilton's principle by deriving the equation of vibrating string, membrane etc. using this principle. But I have never seen that used for deriving ...
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Non-symmetry of a lagrangian

If a transformation $\Phi \rightarrow \Phi + \alpha \partial \Phi/ \partial \alpha$ is not a symmetry of the Lagrangian, then the Noether current is no longer conserved, but rather ...
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Mass term in field Lagrangian

In the Klein-Gordon or in the Dirac Lagrangian density, the mass term is quadratic in the field. The other way around, I have heard a quadratic term in a general Lagrangian density be referred to as a ...
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When considering local phase transformations are we forced to use covariant derivatives?

When considering local phase transformations $e^{i\theta(x)}$ of the fields $\phi$ and $\phi^*$ corresponding to \begin{equation} \mathcal{L}=\partial_\mu\phi^*\partial^\mu\phi-m^2\phi^*\phi ...
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Why is the term $m\delta_2\delta_m\bar{\psi}\psi$ ignored in the QED Lagrangian?

Consider the QED Lagrangian $$\mathcal{L}=\bar{\psi}_0(i\gamma^{\mu}\partial_{\mu}-e_0\gamma^{\mu}A_{0\mu}-m_0)\psi_0-\frac{1}{4}(\partial_{\mu}A_{0\nu}-\partial_{\nu}A_{0\mu})^2$$ where the 0 ...
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Avoiding a singularity in the simulation of a spherica pendulum

I didn't know whether to put this here or in StackOverflow - so I open to answers just telling me to go there! I am looking to simulate the motion of a spherical pendulum. The Lagrangian is $$ ...
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Behaviour of action with respect to time

I was wondering if it was possible to say something general on the behaviour of the action : $$ S[x(\tau)]=\int_0^T L(x,\frac{dx}{d\tau},t) dt $$ (where $x(\tau)$ defines a trajectory, with certain ...
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How general are Noether's theorem in classical mechanics?

I'm going through the derivations of Noether's theorems and I have several criticisms as to how they are presented in popular sources (note that I'm only referring to classical mechanics here and not ...
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Examples of non-linear field symmetries?

Consider a Lagrangian theory of fields $\phi^a(x)$. Sometime such a theory posseses a symmetry (let's talk about internal symmetries for simplicity), which means that the Lagrangian is invariant under ...
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Why does the Palatini formalism of GR work? [duplicate]

We can get the Einstein field equations of GR from the Einstein-Hilbert action via two distinct methods: First, by taking the metric as the only degree of freedom, and imposing right away that the ...
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How to find symmetry transformations?

For a given Lagrangian $$ {\cal L} = - \frac{1}{4} F_{\mu \nu} F^{\mu\nu} + |D_{\mu} \phi|^2 -V (\phi) $$ with $\phi = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (\phi^1 + i \phi^2)$, there are the infinitesimal local ...
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Quadratic terms in QED lagrangian density

I recently learned that when we speak about a "free lagrangian", this actually means that the lagrangian is quadratic in the fields. When considering the Lagrangian density describing the coupling to ...
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Textbook for mathematical Lagrangian mechanics [duplicate]

I'm looking for a textbook or online notes or a review article etc on a rigerous formulation of Lagrangian mechanics. I'm well aware of the book by Arnold but I would like something to accompany it. ...
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Nabla Terms in the Energy Density of the Lagrangian for the Massive Spin 1 Field (Schwartz QFT 1st Ed. Eqn. 8.19)

The relevant part starts with a Lagrangian guess of, $$\mathcal{L}=-\frac{1}{2}\partial_{\nu}A_{\mu}\partial_{\nu}A_{\mu}+\frac{1}{2}m^2A_{\mu}^2$$ where the EOM's are, $$(\Box+m^2)A_{\mu}=0$$ The ...
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Finding the gauge transformtation of a Lagrangian [duplicate]

I am asked to find the gauge symmetry of the following Lagrangian: $L = -\frac{1}{4} F^2_{\mu \nu} + (\partial_{\mu} \phi_1 - m_1 A_{\mu})^2 + (\partial_{\mu} \phi_2 - m_2 A_{\mu})^2$ Then I have to ...
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Isotropic of Inertial frame?

My understanding of isotropic is the a particular physics law remain same no matter at what direction I look at it? Now suppose in case of inertial frame, we know that its is homogeneous and ...
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Lagrangian is isotropic in space

In Landau & Lifshitz Mechanics, while deriving the properties of Lagrangian of a free particle in inertial frame, he uses the following points $:$ As space is homogeneous in inertial frame, a ...
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Lagrangian isn't unique [closed]

If $L$ is a Lagrangian for a system of n degrees of freedom satisfying Lagrange's equations, show by direct substitution that $$L' = L + \frac{\mathrm{d}F(q_1,\dots,q_n,t)}{\mathrm{d}t}$$ ...
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What is a Lagrangian of a photon? [duplicate]

In sense of classical mechanics+special relativity what is lagrangian of a photon? Lagrangian of a relativistic massive particle is as follows: $$ L_{massive}= -mc\sqrt{c^2-v^2} $$ So is it a zero?
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Invariance under local diffeomorphisms

In the context of the Polyakov action, the action for a relativistic point particle $$ S_P = \frac{1}{2} \int \mathrm{d}\tau \, e(\tau) \left(\frac{1}{e^2(\tau)}\left(\frac{\mathrm{d} ...
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Feynman propagator for arbitrary values of the gauge parameter $\zeta$

For the choice $\zeta = 1$ the Lagrangian can be brought into a particularly simple form upon integration by parts in the action integral. Equation$$\mathcal{L}' = -{1\over4}F_{\mu\nu}F^{\mu\nu} - ...
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Why does overall action need to have an extremum?

Quoting from Landau's and Lifshitz' Mechanics : The integral ${\int\limits_{t_1}^{t_2}}L(q, \dot{q},t)\,dt$ for the entire path must have an extremum, but not necessarily a minimum. This, ...
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Conserved quantities for the system, classical mechanics

In certain situations, particularly one-dimensional systems, it is possible to incorporate frictional effects without introducing the dissipation function. As an example, find the equations of motion ...
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Canonical Momentum Conjugate vs. Momentum

I stumbled upon this while reading about Legendre Transforms today. So consider an n-particle system. The Lagrangian is a function of $ q_i$'s and $\dot q_i$'s. If you consider the manifold $M$ where ...
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Noether's Theorem for Hamiltonians and Lagrangians

Looking around I see one version of Noether's Theorem that creates conserved quantities from symmetries that preserve the Lagrangian (e.g. http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/noether.html), and another ...
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When can I apply Lagrangian mechanics?

I am trying to understand Lagrangian mechanics. I am having trouble capturing all of the nuances in one gulp. I can see the equations, but not necessarily the semantics behind such equations. I ...
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Lagrange: when a potential force, when a generalized force?

Consider the following case of a drum unrolling a mass that is on a massless string wrapped around the drum: According to my professor, here we must consider the mass $m$ being in a gravitational ...
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Strong interaction under $SO(3)$ isospin transformation

I'm given the following strong interaction: $$S = \int d^{4}x [\frac{1}{2} \partial_{\mu} \phi^{a} \partial^{\mu} \phi^{a} - \frac{m^2}{2} \phi^{a} \phi^{a}] ,\qquad a = 1,2,3 \text{.}$$ It is stated ...
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Function for which action is the minimum

On page 2 of "Mechanics" Landau & Lifshitz say that $q=q(t)$ is a function for which action is a minimum. Before this they say that at times $t_1$ and $t_2$, the system occupies coordinates ...
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What are the prerequisites needed to grasp analytical mechanics? [duplicate]

What are the mathematical prerequisites needed to grasp analytical mechanics conceptually and technically? What textbook is adequate for this purpose for an undergraduate student? To understand the ...
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Derivative of the action integral [closed]

I need to find the partial derivative of the action $S$ with respect to the generalized coordinate $q(t_f)$ and according to my textbook, it should equal the generalized momentum $p(t_f)$. I ...
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Hamiltonian density for Proca Lagrangian [closed]

The (classical) Proca Lagrangian density for a massive vector field $A_\mu$ is $$ {\cal L} = -\frac{1}{4} F_{\mu\nu} F^{\mu\nu}+\frac{1}{2}m^2 A_{\mu}A^{\mu},$$ where as usual ...
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Lagrangian in rotating reference frame

I have a homework question I am working on, and I'm stuck on the last term in this proof. The problem states: Question: Consider a primed set of axes coincident in origin with an inertial set of axes ...
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Alternate Formulation of Kinetic Energy for Lagrangian

So I have a question regarding this system: It is supposed to be a simple model of an aircraft with the fuselage idealized as a concentrated mass $M_0$ and the wings modeled as rigid bars carrying ...
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State of academic fields of analytic mechanics and Multi Body Dynamics (MBD)

My question essentially contains two parts: one practical question and one philosophical question. Background I am an engineering student working in the field of Multi Body Dynamics (MBD). My ...
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Neutrinos and global $U(1)$ symmetry of Weyl fields

My book on QFT says that neutrinos are well described by left-handed Weyl spinor. The classical Lorentz-invariant Lagrangian density for that field is: $$ \mathcal{L} = ...
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Ricci tensor as relativistic Hamiltonian

I am little bit dissapointment with action integral in General relativity. The action integral is: $$ \int Rd^{4}x=\int R_{ij}g^{ij}d^{4}x\tag{1} $$ Where $$ ...
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Books for field theory [duplicate]

I am a math student, studying P.D.E. of some EM theory. I am new to field theory and I don't even know what a Lagrangian density, Hamiltonian density, or gauge field theory is. Could you please ...
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Covariant form of non-relativistic free particle

I have two questions about the action of free particle. $$S=\int dt~\frac{m}{2}~(\frac{d \vec{x} }{dt})^2 \tag{1}$$ The Covariant form is: (assume: $m=1$) $$S=\int d\tau ...
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Homework central force Lagrangian formulation

For central force $$T = \frac{m}{2}(\dot{r^2} + r^2\dot{\theta^2} + r^2\sin^2{\theta}\dot{\phi^2}$$ Now applying the Lagrangian equation of motion, we get ...
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Action max, min, or saddle?

It is well known that $\delta S = 0$ lays the foundation for variational mechanics. But I am confused as to whether or not this S is a minimum, a maximum, or a saddle point. Some books address this ...
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Quantum field theory with constraint: energy-momentum conservation?

Suppose I have a 2-form field $B$ and a Lagrange multiplier field $\lambda$, then the Lagrangian $S = \int (B \wedge \delta B + \lambda \delta B \wedge \delta B)$ with a Lie derivative operator ...