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From Noether's theorem to canonical Energy-Momentum tensor using translations

In this text that I am reading it says that the transformation $\delta \phi(x)$ is a symmetry if the Lagrangian changes by a total derivative: $$\delta \mathcal{L}= \partial_{\mu}F^{\mu} . $$ From ...
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Null geodesic equation

For a null geodesic curve $X^i$, $$0=g_{ij}V^iV^j.$$ When we derive the geodesic equation from E-L equations, will this affine parametrization cause it to blow up? How is it justified to use the ...
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Lagrangian, Kinetic & Potential energy with two masses connected to three springs

Two masses $m_1$ and $m_2$ are on a frictionless surface. They are connected by three springs with constants $k_1,k_2,k_3$. $k_1$ and $k_3$ are attached to walls and $k_2$ is between the masses. $k_1$ ...
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Lagrangian for small oscillations

For a double pendulum we can consider 2 generalised coordinates $\theta_1$ (angle between first mass and vertical axis) and $\theta_2$ (angle between second mass and vertical axis). The Lagrangian to ...
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A question on the functional dependence of the Lagrangian density

I understand that in classical mechanics the state of a particle at a given instant in time is given by its position $q$ and its velocity at that point $\dot{q}$, and given that, for any given point ...
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In general, can a Lagrangian density depend on space-time explicitly?

In an exercise on classical field theories, I'm trying to derive the general formula of the Energy-momentum tensor. According to the formula in the lecture notes, this tensor includes a term of minus ...
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Full time derivative of the Frank-Oseen energy. Mathematical problem

I am studying liquid crystal theory with the book Kleman, Lavrentovich, Soft Matter Physics. In the Ericksen-Leslie theory, Frank-Oseen energy density is: $$ f=0.5*(K_1*div^2 (n)+K_2 ...
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Motion with damping involving both $-v^2$ and $-v$ terms

I'm trying to solve for the motion of a particle, accounting for both viscous and drag forces. (There is no potential) The total resistance by medium is modeled by: $\vec{F}=-(\mu_1v + ...
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“A Crash Course in Lagrangian Dynamics”. Is it still available online?

In an Amazon review of "Schaum's Outline of Lagrangian Dynamics" I found this: I recommend that you type "Lagrangian Dynamics" into Google and look at some of the excellent sets of lecture notes ...
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Deriving conserved currents by promoting parameter

I currently reading Tong's text on String Theory. In Chapter 4.1.1 he alludes to a technique to derive conserved currents Recall that we can usually derive conserved currents by promoting the ...
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Hookes law and objective stress rates

Often, in papers presenting updated Lagrangian simulation methods for solid dynamics, the following procedure for updating the (Cauchy) stress tensor is presented: First, the Cauchy stress tensor is ...
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The Einstein-Hilbert Action On-Shell

If one consider the Maxwell action as $$S=-\int \mathrm{d^{4}}x\! \ \frac{1}{4}F_{ab}F^{ab} \,$$ one find the usual Maxwell equation $$\partial_{a}F^{ab}=0$$ Then one can simply arrive the following ...
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Sign of gravitational force

I'm reading Lanczos's The variational principles of mechanics, and on pp. 80-81 there is an example involving a system made up of $n$ rigid bars, freely jointed at their end points, and the two free ...
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Interpreting Lagrange Multipliers as forces

I am (still) working on getting a good understanding of Lagrange multipliers. I understand their function in an optimization problem that is subject to some constraint. For the specific case of ...
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What to do with a $\phi$ term in a Lagrangian?

I am considering a Lagrangian that is of the following form: $$\mathcal{L}=-{1\over 2}\partial_\mu\phi\partial^\mu\phi+2\mu^2\phi^2+2\sqrt{6}{\mu^3\over \lambda}\phi + {9\mu^4\over 2\lambda} + ...
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Derive non-linear $\sigma$ model from a theory of SU(2) matirx

It's said in Chapter VI.4 of A. Zee's book Quantum Field Theory in a Nutshell, a theory defined as $L(U(x))=\frac{f^2}{4}Tr(\partial_{\mu}U^{\dagger}\cdot\partial^{\mu}U)$, can be write in the form of ...
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Equations of motion for a pendulum in 3D?

I am trying to solve for the equations of motion to simulate a pendulum. I decided to use the spherical coordinates. The Lagrange equation is: where L = length of the rope ϕ= angle of the ...
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Diagonalize mass matrix term for fermions and “doubling trick” in m(atrix) theory

Can someone help me understand the "Doubling trick" at page 36 in http://inspirehep.net/record/887513/files/sis-2002-060.pdf (named "Scattering in Supersymmetric M(atrix) Models" by Robert Helling) or ...
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Lagrange multiplier dependent on time

At the moment I am following a course on variational methods for mathematicians. Last week we derived the Euler-Lagrange equations for a functional under a constraint. In this derivation we found that ...
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Cyclic integral?

Can anyone explain me what is cyclic integral and give me some instructions how to show that there exist cyclic integral for Lagrangian $$L~=~\frac{1}{2}ma^2{\dot {\theta}}^2+\frac{1}{2}ma^2{\dot ...
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Question about Lagrangian mechanics

I have a question about the Lagrangian-formalism; they state that the holonomic constraints are expressed as: $$f_\alpha(x_1,y_1,z_1,...,x_n,y_n,z_n,t) = 0 $$ where $\alpha = 1,...,L$ They state ...
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Total energy is extremal for the static solutions of equation of motions

In physics total energy is extremal for the static solutions of equation of motions. Can anyone explain this sentence to me?
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Deriving torque from Euler-Lagrange equation

How could you derive an equation for the torque on a rotating (but not translating) rigid body from the Euler-Lagrange equation? As far as I know from my first class in Classical Mechanics, there is ...
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Varying an action (cosmological perturbation theory)

I am stuck varying an action, trying to get an equation of motion. (Going from eq. 91 to eq. 92 in the image.) This is the action $$S~=~\int d^{4}x \frac{a^{2}(t)}{2}(\dot{h}^{2}-(\nabla h)^2).$$ ...
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Scalar Field Theory Decay/Scattering

I have a few questions related to the following interaction Lagrangian (no use of crossing symmetry in the following) involving the uncharged scalar $\chi$ and the charged scalar $\phi$: ...
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Application of Noether's theorem

Consider one parameter transformation: $y = y ( \tilde{y}, \alpha)$ such that lagrangian satisfies: $\tilde{L}(\tilde{y}, \alpha) = L(y ( \tilde{y}, \alpha))$. We say that equation is invariant ...
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Two masses with interacting forces and an external force

Two masses in 3d space attract each other with a potential relative to the distance between them. There is also an external force on each particle based on the distance from a origin. I want to find ...
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Question on 1st order Lagrangian Derivation in Faddeev-Jackiw Formalism

I'm looking at this reference (sorry it's a postscript file, but I can't find a pdf version on the web. This paper describes a similar procedure). The topic is the Faddeev-Jackiw treatment of ...
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What are the forces of constraint if there are multiple equivalent constraints?

Suppose a large (rigid) block is sitting on top of two smaller blocks of equal height $1$, both of which rest on the ground. We wish to find the position of the block (easy) and the forces of ...
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Lagrangian density of linear elastic solid

I need the general expression for the lagrangian density of a linear elastic solid. I haven't been able to find this anywhere. Thanks.
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Higher order Lagrangians [duplicate]

Recently I have read some papers in which the authors considered higher order lagrangians. For example, in this paper "A path integral leading to higher-order Lagrangians" by C.Acatrinei the higher ...
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Principle of Most Action? [duplicate]

In Landau-Lifshitz - Vol 1. Mechanics, right after the introduction of the principle of leas action, there is the following comment: It should be mentioned that this formulation ($S = ...
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Functional Derivative of action

Consider the action of free Klein-Gordon theory $S[\phi]=\frac{1}{2}\displaystyle\int d^4y(\partial_\mu\phi(y)\partial^\mu\phi(y)-m^2\phi^2(y))$ Integrating by parts in the first term gives me ...
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What is the link between D'Alembert's principle and the Lagrange equation of the first kind?

I have just gotten into Lagrangian mechanics. So far I have only been using Lagrange equations of the first kind i.e: $$m_n\ddot{x}_n=F_n+\sum_{\alpha=1}^{R} \lambda_{\alpha} \frac{\partial g_{\alpha ...
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Why is the term $m\delta_2\delta_m\bar{\psi}\psi$ ignored in the QED Lagrangian?

Consider the QED Lagrangian $$\mathcal{L}=\bar{\psi}_0(i\gamma^{\mu}\partial_{\mu}-e_0\gamma^{\mu}A_{0\mu}-m_0)\psi_0-\frac{1}{4}(\partial_{\mu}A_{0\nu}-\partial_{\nu}A_{0\mu})^2$$ where the 0 ...
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What is a Lagrangian of a photon? [duplicate]

In sense of classical mechanics+special relativity what is lagrangian of a photon? Lagrangian of a relativistic massive particle is as follows: $$ L_{massive}= -mc\sqrt{c^2-v^2} $$ So is it a zero?
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Lagrange: when a potential force, when a generalized force?

Consider the following case of a drum unrolling a mass that is on a massless string wrapped around the drum: According to my professor, here we must consider the mass $m$ being in a gravitational ...
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Derivative of the action integral [closed]

I need to find the partial derivative of the action $S$ with respect to the generalized coordinate $q(t_f)$ and according to my textbook, it should equal the generalized momentum $p(t_f)$. I ...
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Why do Lagrange multipliers work in mechanics?

I understand that it is not always simple to find generalized coordinates that satisfy the constraint equations, so we try to find an alternative (more mechanical) method that yields curves that ...
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Lagrangians not related via a total time derivative lead to same Noether symmetries?

Having answered my initial two questions (v1), I now consider a third possibility. Consider two Lagrangians that both lead to equivalent equations of motion. Suppose that they are not related via a ...
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Locality defined in terms of the Lagrangian density

I've been reading through Matthew Schwartz's book "Quantum Field Theory and the Standard Model" and in chapter 24 there is a section on locality (section 24.4). In it he defines locality in terms of ...
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What are the equations of motion for the scalar field in the tetrad formalism?

The action of a massless scalar field in curved spacetime is given by: \begin{equation} S(\phi)=\int d^{4}x \sqrt{-g}\left(g^{\mu\nu}\phi_{,\mu}\phi_{,\nu}\right) \end{equation} Now the action can ...
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Ghost in the quantization of relativistic particle

It is well known that in the quantization of certain relativistic theories such electromagnetism or relativistic string negative norm states could arise when quantizing covariantly. Acting with ...
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Decoupling of generalized coordinates in lagrangian

Say you have a lagrangian $L$ for a system of 2 degrees of freedom. The action, S is: $S[y,z] = \int_{t_1}^{t_2} L(t,y,y',z,z')\,dt \tag{1}$ If $y$ and $z$ are associated with two parts of the ...
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Lagrangian, geodesics and relativity [closed]

My background is in maths, but I have been studying some basic physics with occasional input from a friend who is studying for a physics PhD. Due to my background, I am keen to visualize things ...
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Schwarzschild metric circular orbits and kepler's 3rd law

I have been looking at the Schwarzschild metric presented to me as the following within lectures: ...
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Hamiltonian linearly proportional to momentum

In this question, it is discussed why, in Lagrangians we usually stick to first derivatives and quadratic terms we never see higher derivatives. The selected answer shows that, if a Lagrangian $L(q, ...
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How do quantum fields really couple?

The term "coupling" between quantum fields refers to certain terms in the Lagrangian (density) $\mathcal{L}$ where the respective field operators appear together, e.g. $g\phi^\dagger\psi $ with ...
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Lagrange's equation implying Newton's 2nd law? [duplicate]

The typical first application of Lagrange's equation is showing that it implies Newton's law for a particle whose Lagrangian is $L=\frac{1}{2}mv^2-V(x)$. Plugging this Lagrangian into Lagrange's ...
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A question on Lagrangian dynamics an the velocity phase space

I've struggled in the past with understanding why we can treat position and velocity as independent variables in the Lagrangian, but I think I may have finally become a bit more enlightened on the ...