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Consider the normalized state, written in some orthonormal basis as: $$\psi = A |0\rangle + B |1\rangle$$

Let's define a "purity operator" for a basis as any operator whose expectation value gives 1 for a pure state in this basis, and 0 for the most mixed state in this basis. Inbetween states should give between 0 and 1, although the specific value doesn't matter.

One possible example (please note my question is on the general case though, this specific example is just to aid discussion), is $$\langle \mathcal{O} \rangle = 1 - 4 \frac{|A||B|}{|A|+|B|}$$

What mathematically prevents such measurements in quantum mechanics?

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There is obviously no nontrivial "purity operator" on the Hilbert space because all states $|\psi\rangle$ in the Hilbert space are pure. You could define a "purity operator" on the space of density matrices but it wouldn't be a linear operator because one may get (and usually gets) mixed states by making superpositions of pure states. These non-existences shouldn't be surprising because "purity" is not an observable. An observable is something that you may measure in 1 repetition of an experiment, to get 1 number. Purity can't be measured in this sense. –  Luboš Motl Apr 27 '11 at 5:07
    
First of all, as others have mentioned below purity and mixedness are properties of density matrices, not pure states. I would think that the von Neumann entropy $S = - Tr \rho \ln (\rho)$ and related measures such as the mutual information $I(\rho_A,\rho_B)$ (a measure of the information shared by two systems $A$ and $B$) would be the starting point for finding a measure of the purity of such systems. –  user346 Apr 27 '11 at 8:32
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From the example you've given, it's clear that you're using the wrong terms to describe what you want. Purity and mixedness apply to density operators and not to state vectors -- if your system is described by a state vector $|\psi\rangle$, it is already pure.

What you seem to want to know is whether there is an operator that, in a particular basis, has an expectation value that lets you know to what degree the state is in a superposition of basis states. I think the uncertainty operator might work for you here. If $S$ is the operator whose eigenstates are $|0\rangle$ and $|1\rangle$, then the operator $(S-\langle S\rangle)^2$ has zero expectation value for the basis states and a non-zero value for all superpositions. You could scale this in some way to give you a value between 0 and 1.

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The question (v1) abuses language slightly no matter how one understands it. Here I sketch three interpretations.

1) Interpretation in terms of a density matrix $\rho$:

Assume the operator ${\cal O}$ is diagonalizable. Since the eigenstates are pure states, the eigenvalues must be $1$. In other words, ${\cal O}$ is the identity operator. Then $\langle {\cal O} \rangle = \mathrm{tr}{\cal O}\rho=\mathrm{tr}\rho=1$ for any mixed or pure density matrix $\rho$.

2) Interpretation in terms of an operator ${\cal O}$ that satisfies

$$\langle 0 |{\cal O}| 0\rangle =1,$$ $$\langle 1 |{\cal O}| 1\rangle =1,$$ $$\langle \psi |{\cal O}| \psi\rangle =0 \qquad \mathrm{for~~all} \qquad |A|=|B|=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}.$$

Here

$$|\psi\rangle = A| 0\rangle+B| 1\rangle, \qquad 1=||\psi||^2 = \langle \psi|\psi\rangle =|A|^2+|B|^2 .$$

$|A|=|B|=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}$ is not what is traditionally meant by being "the most mixed state". Note that there are not just one of these states, but infinitely many pairs of complex numbers $(A,B)$ that satisfy $|A|=|B|=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}$. Even after removing an overall phase, there is a relative phase left.

Assume ${\cal O}$ is a Hermitian operator. Then ${\cal O}$ has a matrix of the form

$${\cal O} = \left[\begin{array}{cc} 1 & c \\ c^* & 1 \end{array}\right]. $$

So

$$0=\langle \psi |{\cal O}| \psi\rangle = |A|^2+|B|^2+A^*cB+B^*c^*A = 1+2\mathrm{Re}(A^*cB).$$

But this is impossible for general complex phases of $A$ and $B$ with $|A|=|B|=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}$.

3) Interpretation in terms of an operator ${\cal O}$ that satisfies

$$\langle 0 |{\cal O}| 0\rangle =1,$$ $$\langle 1 |{\cal O}| 1\rangle =1,$$ $$\langle \psi |{\cal O}| \psi\rangle =0 \qquad \mathrm{for~at~least~one} \qquad |A|=|B|=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}.$$

The characteristic polynomial $p_{\cal O}(\lambda)$ for the matrix ${\cal O}$ reads

$$p_{\cal O}(\lambda)=\det({\cal O}-\lambda {\bf 1})= (\lambda-1)^2-|c|^2= (\lambda-1-|c|) (\lambda-1+|c|).$$

So the two eigenvalues of ${\cal O}$ are $\lambda=1\pm|c|$. Since the expectation values for ${\cal O}$ should be between $0$ and $1$, we must demand that $c=0$. In other words, ${\cal O}$ is the identity operator, which leads to the following inconsistency

$$0=\langle \psi |{\cal O}| \psi\rangle =\langle \psi |\psi\rangle =1.$$

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For (1), better yet, the expectation value of $\rho$ can be used as the desired measure since $\mathrm{tr} \rho\rho = 1$ iff $\rho$ is pure. And you get values between 0 and 1 for mixed states. But this is probably not what the OP is asking for. –  dbrane Apr 26 '11 at 23:21
    
The question is not ill-posed; instead it abuses the language slightly. Why don't you edit it so that it's correct? By the way, +1 for the correct solution. –  Carl Brannen Apr 27 '11 at 3:00
    
Dear @dbrane. Neat observation, although in interpretation (1), we first construct an operator ${\cal O}$ (which could be a density matrix itself), and we then probe with arbitrary $\rho$'s. Therefore the operator ${\cal O}$ is not allowed to depend on $\rho$. –  Qmechanic Apr 28 '11 at 10:33
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