Take the 2-minute tour ×
Physics Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for active researchers, academics and students of physics. It's 100% free, no registration required.

I need to do some work with liquid nitrogen at home. The main question is how to store it without buying huge vacuum flask specifically for liquid nitrogen.

I've tried to use usual steel household vacuum bottles, added ~1 cm of extra insulation (some foamy material, multiple layers), wrapped in plastic to protect from condensation. Cap is also made from this foamy material (I remember that I should not seal the flask) .

The problem is that liquid nitrogen evaporates in ~30 hours. I suppose the main issue is cap construction, sides of the flasks are warm, while cap is cold. Also, it seems heat loses are maximum near cap because hot and cold steel sides are touching there.

Any known tricks on how to improve heat insulation and prolong lifetime of liquid nitrogen? Is that correct that I should be wrapping it all in aluminum foil on the "hot" side of insulation?

My goal is 3 days evaporation, 7 is just perfect.

enter image description here enter image description here

share|improve this question
6  
Please be EXTREMELY CAREFULL with at-home experiments involving liquid nitrogen - work outdoors if you can, or in a room with the windows open. The risk of suffocation is significant. Since you are trying to preserve the liquid, you are clearly not letting large amounts out at once - this is in your favour. The density of liquid N2 is 800 times that of N2 gas at room temperature - so there's heaps of gas in a small amount of liquid. –  WetSavannaAnimal aka Rod Vance Aug 12 '13 at 0:25
add comment

3 Answers

up vote 6 down vote accepted
+50

As an "infrared survey technician" part of my job was keeping our infrared camera topped off with liquid nitrogen. We had a large dewar (about the size of a barrel) at the shop that was filled bi-weekly. For daily excursions we used a smaller dewar (about the size of a pony keg). Both of these dewars were specifically designed to contain cryogenic liquids, and were clearly labeled as liquid nitrogen, with appropriate warnings. Our supplier refused to fill homemade dewars, or dewars that weren't labeled properly.

The best thing to use for handling small amounts of liquid nitrogen is actually a standard stainless steel thermos; the only modification needed is a loose fitting styrofoam lid.

Dewar lids are usually styrofoam covered with thin plastic. The lid must be easily destructible so that it cannot sustain any pressure inside the dewar. Dewar lids slide on, they do not screw on. The fit is very important, too loose and it won't insulate, too tight and it will literally pop off the container. The diameter of dewar lid should be about 3 times the diameter of the dewar neck. The lid should have a long "cork" that slides into the dewar neck, and also a "cap" that slides over and completely insulates the outside of the dewar neck. Don't make a tight fitting cap and drill a pressure-relief hole in the top. Condensation may drain into the hole and freeze, allowing pressure to build. The idea is for the evaporating N2 to escape from the bottom of the lid and flow downward over the dewar cooling the exterior.

Safety: Pouring liquid nitrogen over your skin is mildly painful but essentially harmless parlor trick (due to the Leidenfrost effect). But be careful not to spill it into a boot, glove, or pocket; a few seconds of contact can cause serious necrosis. Never wear welding gloves or tuck your pants into rubber boots.

share|improve this answer
add comment

Try a styrofoam cooler:

http://www.jefferspet.com/images/265/Z1XP.jpg

They're about $5 at Walmart. Your homemade dewars should fit easily inside and should be reasonably sealed from atmosphere. We used to use this in my Senior Lab in undergrad to freeze samples overnight, there was always plenty left in the morning, so I imagine that the combination should get you near that 3 day mark.

share|improve this answer
add comment

Just spit-balling as I have never tried this.

  1. Use the best dewar(s) you can find. Silvered glass walls and a vacuum gap.
  2. Assuming you can take as much LN2 as you want, use the biggest dewar(s) you can find. Not only is there more there, but the surface area to volume ratio works in your favor.
  3. Keep the dewar(s) in a cool, enclosed place. You'd like them to cool the air around them just once instead of cooling a flowing steam of air. Maybe put them in a big insulated cooler if you can get one.

    You might consider keeping them packed in dry ice (for the same reason the liquid helium cryosystems are often wrapped in a LN2 jacket).

  4. Avoid opening them if possible.
share|improve this answer
    
Regarding #1 - I've seen suggestions not to use glass ones, as they are easily destroyed on rapid cooling. –  BarsMonster Aug 10 '13 at 22:32
    
Hmmm...have to admit that I don't have enough experience to say for sure. The problem with steel is that it is hard to get a really good emmisivity. For polished stainless you can guess at about .5 as a good starting place. Do they make silvered steel flasks? –  dmckee Aug 10 '13 at 22:37
    
Just a bit of lateral thinking, but maybe the folks on the chemistry forum might have some useful answers? –  Anthony X Aug 10 '13 at 23:14
add comment

Your Answer

 
discard

By posting your answer, you agree to the privacy policy and terms of service.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.