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Let's say we have one black hole that formed through the collapse of hydrogen gas and another that formed through the collapse of anti-hydrogen gas. What happens when they collide? Do they (1) coalesce into a single black hole or do they (2) "annihilate" into radiation?

One would expect (1) to be the case if the No Hair Theorem were to hold. So I guess what I'm really asking for is a modern understanding of this theorem and its applicability given what we know today.

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Black holes only conserve mass, electric charge and angular momentum. In particular, they do not conserve baryon number, so an "anti-black hole" is indistinguishable from a black hole. When they collide, you get a lot of gravitational waves and a bigger black hole. –  Peter Shor Feb 21 '11 at 16:13
@Peter Shor: full endorsement from me. ;-) +1. –  Luboš Motl Feb 21 '11 at 16:30
Dear @Jerry, for neutral black holes, it makes no sense to talk about "what material the singularity is made out of". The singularity is not a place in space; the Penrose diagram shows that it is a place in time - analogous to the Big Crunch in cosmology. It's a moment in the future where everything - and time - ends. That's also why physics near the singularity can't (classically) influence any event in the Universe. So it's not just some vague philosophical opinion such as Occam's razor that make "antisingularity" impossible: it's basic causality that does so. –  Luboš Motl Feb 21 '11 at 17:18
This might be a dumb question, but isn't "Baryon number" a piece of information about the system? And if so, then when we can no longer determine the Baryon number, isn't information lost? –  Tim Goodman Feb 21 '11 at 20:35
Dear @Jerry, fair enough but one should be careful before he interprets the innermost parts of the Kerr-Newman etc. black holes too physically. The internal horizon of Reissner-Nordström black hole is a Cauchy horizon and many things proceed differently than the naive solution suggests. I think that the Schwarzschild intuition that the singularity is a "future" that can't affect anyone for a finite amount of time still holds, but of course this is linked to the issues of cosmic censorship etc. –  Luboš Motl Feb 21 '11 at 21:37

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I suspect there is a bit of a difficulty here. A particle $p$ and its anti-particle $\bar p$ cancel each other, and if they have a mass $m$ this results in the production of massless bosons (photons). Quantum number which identify the particle $p$ are subtracted away by opposite quantum numbers of $\bar p$. These quantum numbers usually are the lepton or baryon numbers, electric charge, isospin and so forth. However, anti-matter does not have anti-mass.

Dirac’s original idea was that the Klein-Gordon equation had a square-root according to spinors. If the particle has a mass there are then two roots for the momentum, which define a surface in $\pm$ portions of the momentum light cone. The negative portion of the cone defines the so called Dirac sea, where the mass of particles is negative. All of these negative energy (mass) states are however completely filled up. This is why this is called a “sea,” for they define a ground state which has no dynamics. However, if you impart a package of energy to a state in the sea so its energy flips sign you can generate an anti-particle with positive mass-energy. However, all the other quantum numbers are reversed, including the charge.

One could then construct a black hole from a huge cloud of hydrogen and anti-hydrogen of equal mass. Based on the final state of the black hole it is not possible to determine whether it was formed by hydrogen or anti-hydrogen. So if you have two such black holes, one from $H$ and the other from $\bar H$ the two will coalesce into a larger black hole.

The Schwarzschild solution in its pure form has a past and future singularity, where the past singularity corresponds to a “white hole.” The white hole is about the closest thing there is to an “anti-black hole.” These do not exist in nature, or at least have not been identified astronomically. They may play some role in the very early universe, but nature is such that there is an asymmetry (asymmetry in their occurrence etc) between the black hole and white hole. However, the white hole does not have an “anti-mass.”

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And now an experimentalist chimes in:

Baryon number conservation depends on the lifetime of the proton at low energies, admittedly quite large but finite in many theories.

At high energies, high enough for a quark gluon plasma to form, the preponderance of baryons becomes a slight excess of quarks versus antiquarks in the soup. This because quark antiquark pairs continuously form and annihilate in the sea, and if one would want to keep a conserved number that would be the excess number of quarks over antiquarks in a matter plasma and vice verso in an antimatter one.

One supposes that in the collapse of a hole the energies are sufficient for a quark gluon plasma to form and thus make moot the point of baryon number and antibaryon number assumed in the question. The excess of quarks in one hole versus the excess of antiquarks in the other would be proportionately very diluted to assume that the hole could be characterized as matter or antimatter anyway, even if all other valid physics arguments already presented by others were not present.

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Conserved quantities don't get "diluted." The issue here is that there are fundamental reasons to believe that black holes are not characterizable in any way by quantities like baryon number. We can see this in the no-hair theorems, and we can see it in the fact that Hawking radiation does not carry the properties like baryon number that went into formation of the black hole. –  Ben Crowell Jul 29 '11 at 15:23
@Ben Crowell I am sorry, but if a conserved quantity is used to characterize a baryon ensemble, once the structure of the ensemble changes, i.e. it turns into a quark gluon plasma, the number has little relevance because there are no baryons left, it is only a small excess in quarks ( or antiquarks for anti baryon derived ensemble) that as a ratio to the total particles in the ensemble becomes very small and in that sense is diluted. –  anna v Jul 29 '11 at 16:42

They simply merge to be a bigger hole. There is no matter outside of the horizon so they will merge without incident. Nothing that happens inside the hole will affect the outside, so we can't see any annihilation reactions.

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