# What does a subatomic charge actually mean?

I was recently reading a popular science book called The Canon - The Beautiful Basics of Science by Natalie Angier, and it talks about subatomic particles like protons, neutrons and electrons in chapter 3. I came across this section on subatomic charges that made me wonder about the nature of the positive and negative charges that we associate with protons and electrons respectively.

When you talk about a fully charged battery, you probably have in mind a battery loaded with a stored source of energy that you can slip into the compartment of your digital camera to take many exciting closeups of flowers. In saying that the proton and electron are charged particles while the neutron is not, however, doesn't mean that the proton and electron are little batteries of energy compared to the neutron. A particles's charge is not a measure of the particles's energy content. Instead, the definition is almost circular. A particle is deemed charged by its capacity to attract or repel other charged particles.

I found this definition/description a bit lacking, and I still don't grasp the nature of a "subatomic charge", or what do physicists mean when they say that a proton is positively charged and electron is negatively charged?

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The same thing they mean when they talk about macroscopic objects being (electrically) charged. Indeed, macroscopic charges are explained in terms of microscopic charges, but at some level you must get down to "because these behaviors are observed and are correctly modeled with this math". –  dmckee Dec 28 '12 at 23:34

When physicists say that a particle has electric charge, they mean that it is either a source or sink for electric fields, and that such a particle experiences a force when an electric field is applied to them.

In a sense, a single pair of charged particles are a battery, if you arrange them correctly and can figure out how to get them to do useful work for you. It is the tendency for charged particles to move in an electric field that lets us extract work from them.

A typical electronic device uses moving electrons to generate magnetic fields (moving electrons cause currents, and currents generate magnetic fields) and these magnetic fields can move magnets, causing a motor to turn. What is happening at a fundamental level is that an electric field is being applied (via the potential across the battery) that is causing those electrons to move.

If I wanted a magnetic field to be generated, I could get one from a single pair of charges, say, two protons placed next to one another. The protons will repel (like charges repel) and fly away from each other. These moving protons create a current (moving charge) which creates a magnetic field.

Your author is right when he says that charges attract or repel other charges. To help connect it to more familiar concepts, consider this: The negative end of your battery terminal attracts electrons and the positive end repels them. (The signs of battery terminals are actually opposite the conventional usage of positive and negative when referring to elementary charges. As a physicist, I blame electrical engineers.) The repelled and attracted electrons start moving, and these moving electrons can be used to do work.

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To expand on my comments, electrical phenomena includes a force between electrically charged objecs of $\vec{F}_1 = -k\frac{q_1 q_2}{r^2_{1,2}}\hat{r}_{1,2}$ where $q_1$ and $q_2$ are the charges on two objects, $r_{1,2}$ is the postion vector from object 1 to object 2 and $k$ is a constant of proportionality that depends on the system of units you choose.

We can measure those forces very simply in a macroscopic setting and with a little more work in a microscopic setting.

And this interaction (and the rest of electrodynamics) is essentially how we define electrical charges at all scales.

The "little more work" I refer to above means things like scattering experiments where you throw one charged particle past another and look at how the angle of deflection varies with the impact parameter.

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$1$. The nature of a "subatomic charge" "The reason for the electric charge is that the quarks couple to a U(1) gauge vector-potential also known as the photon, which endows the quark with an electric charge. .. The theory encompassing the quarks and their properties is called Yang-Mills theory with associated Lie algebras U(1), SU(2), and S(3) which are called gauge groups."

quoted from Krchov2000 See Yang-Mills theory (Wikipedia).

However, I can't just say that charge is a fundamental property which we must just accept to be true without an explanation.Rather, the explanation is too complicated to just 'answer', you need to study entire subjects to get the 'real' explanation. You need to learn stuff like Yang-Mills theory to actually understand the nature of subatomic charge.

$2$. What do physicists mean when they say that a proton is positively charged and electron is negatively charged?

Charge refers to a property. When an electron is charged with a certain magnitude or charge, then we have a certain magnitude of electrical force etc. according to equations like $F=\frac {kq_1 q_2}{r^2}$, where $q_1$ and $q_2$ are the charges of two particles.

The positive and negative charges are just by definitions: if we wanted, we could define protons to be negatively charged and electrons to be positively charged. What really matters is to understand that protons and electrons have opposite charges.

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While this is correct I'm not sure that it is the best approach to take with questioner is unsure of what is meant by "charge". –  dmckee Dec 28 '12 at 23:51