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I'm having trouble understanding the simple "planetary" model of the atom that I'm being taught in my basic chemistry course.

In particular,

  1. I can't see how a negatively charged electron can stay in "orbit" around a positively charged nucleus. Even if the electron actually orbits the nucleus, wouldn't that orbit eventually decay?
  2. I can't reconcile the rapidly moving electrons required by the planetary model with the way atoms are described as forming bonds. If electrons are zooming around in orbits, how do they suddenly "stop" to form bonds.

I understand that certain aspects of quantum mechanics were created to address these problems, and that there are other models of atoms. My question here is whether the planetary model itself addresses these concerns in some way (that I'm missing) and whether I'm right to be uncomfortable with it.

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to 1:They are on the lowest energy level. They can't decay to lower ones. to 2: they don't stop, the planetary model is just that, a model(and a pretty bad one). – P3trus Jan 25 '12 at 17:13

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You are right, the planetary model of the atom does not make sense when one considers the electromagnetic forces involved. The electron in an orbit is accelerating continuously and would thus radiate away its energy and fall into the nucleus.

One of the reasons for "inventing" quantum mechanics was exactly this conundrum.

The Bohr model was proposed to solve this, by stipulating that the orbits were closed and quantized and no energy could be lost while the electron was in orbit, thus creating the stability of the atom necessary to form solids and liquids. It also explained the lines observed in the spectra from excited atoms as transitions between orbits.

If you study further into physics you will learn about Quantum Mechanics and the axioms and postulates that form the equations whose solutions give exact numbers for what was a first guess at a model of the atom.

Quantum mechanics is accepted as the underlying level of all physical forces at the microscopic level, and sometimes it can be seen macroscopically, as with superconductivity, for example. Macroscopic forces are limiting cases of the real forces which reign microsopically.

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Dear Anna, you authoritatively sensed some age of the OP, hopefully correctly, and acquired the role of a wise old-generation teacher and you got +1. ;-) – Luboš Motl Jan 25 '12 at 15:26
I wish I understood quantum mechanics (at least as applied to this question), it looks like there are some interesting connections between it and "orbits". – raxacoricofallapatorius Jan 25 '12 at 20:44
In addition, you may also consider the electron no more as a small ball but as a string (or a wave, but it is more difficult to imagine), that does not orbit but just "holds on" around the nucleus. Quantum mechanics explain when electrons need be described by those small balls (particles) or by those strings (waves) – Isaac Jan 25 '12 at 22:03
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You could get an idea of quantum mechanics from this introduction : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_quantum_mechanics which is non technical. For real understanding one has to put the elbow grease of going through a QM course and doing the exercises.The news article you quote is at the tail end of such a course. – anna v Jan 26 '12 at 5:11
Bohr's model just says the inner orbit is stable because it has the lowest possible energy an electron can hold and doesn't answer why. Black-holes challenge this assumption. – Xaqron Apr 5 at 9:37

This is just my 2 cents:

Electrons have so little mass they are at times a wave, their mass is so negligible don't think of them as planets, rather representations of energy.

Sometimes electrons do fall into the nuclei this is nuclear decay.

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All particles are waves, at all times. It's not always the easiest way to treat them - sometimes the math becomes easier by treating them as particles - but that's a human limitation. However, that's not off-topic. You're implying that the planetary model of the atom cannot be salvaged, and the question was how it could be. – MSalters Jan 26 '12 at 10:30
@MSalters: I've been trying to understand this issue, namely, if what is observed are waves, why are you calling them particles? – Zeynel Oct 7 '12 at 11:58
@Zeynel: The two terms are interchangable. Sometimes you observe particles. Remember the clicking sound of a Geiger counter? Each click is an the detection of a particle. I'm calling them "particle" here because it's a quantum of energy, so particle math is easier. But at the same time it's a wave. – MSalters Oct 7 '12 at 12:20
Electrons never fall into the nucleus, they are sometimes absorbed by a proton. – Ron Maimon Oct 7 '12 at 14:13
@MSalters wrote: "Sometimes you observe particles"... From what I read here SO.physics and in Matt Strassler's blog profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/… and his slides here physics.rutgers.edu/~strassler/QuestHiggs.pdf and other sources, my understanding is that: 1. No particles are observed; what is observed are quanta 2. Quanta are not particles they are waves. 3. Therefore, only waves are observed. Do you agree with this? – Zeynel Oct 9 '12 at 0:15
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Briefly,

  1. The Bohr--planetary model doesn't really address these issues.

Bohr, a genius, just asserted that the phenomena at the atomic level were a combination of stationarity while being in an orbit, and discrete quantum jumps between the orbits. It was a postulate that yielded some agreement with experiment and was very helpful for the future development of quantum mechanics solely because it got people to think about stationarity and discreteness.

2 It is totally useless for discussing chemical bonds. You are quite right to be uncomfortable with it.

3 It would be stretching a point, but you could see the Quantum Mechanics of Heisenberg and Schroedinger as the only way to salvage the planetary model of Bohr, by finally coming up with an explanation for the stationarity of an electron's state around (but no longer considered as « orbiting ») the nucleus and an explanation for discrete jumps as a response to perturbations from outside. But this required seeing the electron more as a wave and hence not having any definite location along the orbit.

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Bohr did not just assert it, this just shows you never read Bohr. Bohr created the correspondence principle to explain how to quantize. – Ron Maimon Oct 7 '12 at 14:12

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